[Stoner]

Okay, upon that I will agree. But I have heard NO SCIENTIST quantify what human alterations might accomplish. Have you?

Hell, we barely got past the issue of global warming happening _

But, no.....I am unaware of any yet publicised report that specificies exactly the quantitative analysis of actions and reactions.
From what I gather, most scientists view the problem to be too complex a dynamic to give any accurate analysis of specific conservation/environmental measures versus results.

[Stoner]

Lysenco? I dunno what that means.

Lysenko was a well known 'scientist' that was favored for a while in Stalin's Soviet Union.
He infused the politics of the day into his zaney theories which were promoted by the State.
Didn't work out well ..........


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trofim_Lysenko


along the theme of 'creation science'.....nothing to substantiate it.

[Stoner]

LAN said:

I can lie all I want about global warming and make no difference in the scheme of things.

Sorry to see you have sold your ethics .....
Say, isn't that a neocon position?

[Stoner]

AlGore is a frontrunner in the Democrat Party. Hys utter bulklcrap makes a big difference in the scheme of things. You may not follow his BS with regard to the global climate and humanity's role (or maybe you do) but many people do, including those on the international scene in Cannes etc.

Wise words fron Lee Iacoca

Lead, follow or get out of the way.
Meaning, if you don't lead with a solution to a problem, you then become commited to follow or relinquish your participation.

You definitly aren't leading

[ChrisJones]

Originally Posted by Stoner

I am unaware of any weapons ability with fusion generators.
What do you know concerning that aspect.

Haven't you seen Cold Fusion with Keano Reaves? A Fusion generator levelled half of chicago! Hollywood said it so it must be true!

Seriously though, I do believe that it has been suggested that an uncontrolled fusion reaction "Would be a bad thing". I can't back that up though.

Chris.

[Stoner]

That wasn't a fusion generator.
It was a hydrogen generator.

edit: wasn't it?

[Ciberblade]

Cold Fusion for Linux?

[LANMaster]

Originally Posted by Stoner

Hell, we barely got past the issue of global warming happening _

But, no.....I am unaware of any yet publicised report that specificies exactly the quantitative analysis of actions and reactions.

Not even an estimate of what such a lifestyle change might accomplish?
That doesn't sound very scientific to me.

From what I gather, most scientists view the problem to be too complex a dynamic to give any accurate analysis of specific conservation/environmental measures versus results.

So they simply say there's a MAJOR crisis, and we have to take extreme measures, but we can in no way, shape matter or form quantify or estimate if any progress will be made.

To me, that isn't very scientific.

[LANMaster]

Originally Posted by Stoner

Lysenko was a well known 'scientist' that was favored for a while in Stalin's Soviet Union.
He infused the politics of the day into his zaney theories which were promoted by the State.
Didn't work out well ..........


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trofim_Lysenko

Thanks for the info, Jack.

along the theme of 'creation science'.....nothing to substantiate it.

...... and here you accuse me of getting off topic.

[LANMaster]

Originally Posted by Stoner

Wise words fron Lee Iacoca

Lead, follow or get out of the way.
Meaning, if you don't lead with a solution to a problem, you then become commited to follow or relinquish your participation.

You definitly aren't leading

Is Al Gore your leader?

[LANMaster]

Originally Posted by Stoner

LAN said:


Sorry to see you have sold your ethics .....
Say, isn't that a neocon position?

Puleeze.

[LANMaster]

Originally Posted by Stoner

I can not support Kyoto for any reason. It sidesteps the problems and is only a 'feel good' proclamation.

"Feel good" about socking it to American capitalism.

No, you still don't understand.
I said:

Take the hint, it's way beyond your political abilities to control natural forces, but the activities of man are another issue . We can control our conduct to a great degree......well, some of us can

We can get off this anytime you want. I was being sarcastic.
reducing man-made emissions (being 3-4% of total emissions of gg on the planet) by as much as 25% won't matter a hill of beans in the grand scheme of things.
You might as well try to limit volcanic emissions. Get the sarcasm there? Sure hope so.

I said

Go back and read your suggestion to make the vocanoes quiet and then claim you never suggested that idea............FFBS.....Flying Flaming BS...

You can't make a volcano quiet, which is the point I was making. Sheeesh, you're thick today.

[LANMaster]

The global warming "leadership" hero makes the Liberal bias MSM swoon.

Al Gore: Selfless Oracle

In an article giddy with admiration, Howard Fineman asks the question, “Is Al Gore happy to be a selfless oracle?”

Compare to any MSM article, chosen at random, about George W. Bush.

WASHINGTON – In Washington the other day, I got a chance to tell Al Gore something I’d meant to say for a long time, which was that I thought his real strength, his real contribution, was as an observer — writer, explainer, outsider — and not as a politician.

The new movie about him was evidence of that, I said. He gave me a blank, dismissive look, and an “umm” for a verbal response.

I’ve known and covered Gore for decades, so maybe his reaction was inspired by Groucho Marx, who always said that he would never join a club that would have him as a member. But I think the brusque reply carried a different message: don’t assume that I’m ready to be put out to that pasture just yet.

Gore has a certain aura of nobility about him these days — a mixture of rue, acceptance and lofty goals that makes him almost, well, endearing.

Whew. Maybe you can make it through the whole thing, but that’s about all I could take.


I could have posted this in the media bias thread, but it fits here just as good.

[Stoner]

Not even an estimate of what such a lifestyle change might accomplish?
That doesn't sound very scientific to me.

What do you care?
You said:

I can lie all I want about global warming and make no difference in the scheme of things.

[Stoner]

Originally Posted by LANMaster

...............


So they simply say there's a MAJOR crisis, and we have to take extreme measures, but we can in no way, shape matter or form quantify or estimate if any progress will be made.

To me, that isn't very scientific.

What do you care?

I can lie all I want about global warming and make no difference in the scheme of things.