[person]

Originally Posted by hotskates

WOW........global warming is "solved"..........thank goodness

Don't you know solved in CivDebates doesn't seem to mean much?

[hotskates]

Originally Posted by person

Don't you know solved in CivDebates doesn't seem to mean much?

Ha....your right

[bill.aam]

With humor and eloquence Fred Thompson disses Algore without even mentioning him by name..


March 22, 2007 9:30 AM

Plutonic Warming

By Fred Thompson

Editor’s note: Click here to listen to the original radio commentary this transcript is based on.

Some people think that our planet is suffering from a fever. Now scientists are telling us that Mars is experiencing its own planetary warming: Martian warming. It seems scientists have noticed recently that quite a few planets in our solar system seem to be heating up a bit, including Pluto.

NASA says the Martian South Pole’s “ice cap” has been shrinking for three summers in a row. Maybe Mars got its fever from earth. If so, I guess Jupiter’s caught the same cold, because it’s warming up too, like Pluto.

This has led some people, not necessarily scientists, to wonder if Mars and Jupiter, non signatories to the Kyoto Treaty, are actually inhabited by alien SUV-driving industrialists who run their air-conditioning at 60 degrees and refuse to recycle.

Silly, I know, but I wonder what all those planets, dwarf planets and moons in our SOLAR system have in common. Hmmmm. SOLAR system. Hmmmm. Solar? I wonder. Nah, I guess we shouldn’t even be talking about this. The science is absolutely decided. There’s a consensus.

Ask Galileo.

— Fred Thompson is an actor and former United States senator from Tennessee.

NRO

[lotuseclat79]

If the ice at both the Artic and Antartic were to melt, how high would the ocean level rise: Answer = 150 ft. (best estimate) and both the Mississippi and Amazon river valleys would be flooded.

Question is, when are they going to melt? Anyone got a good estimate?

-- Tom

[bill.aam]

Originally Posted by lotuseclat79

If the ice at both the Artic and Antartic were to melt, how high would the ocean level rise: Answer = 150 ft. (best estimate) and both the Mississippi and Amazon river valleys would be flooded.

Question is, when are they going to melt? Anyone got a good estimate?

-- Tom

Algore

[Littlefield]

I think you will be long dead and your grandchildren's children dead too and their children as well ...

[lotuseclat79]

Hi Littlefield,

Possibly, but did you know tht the contribution would be all from the South Pole? The reason the North Pole ice would not contribute is that it is all "float ice". The South Pole ice is not "float ice" and overlays the AntArtic continent, and so, would make a considerable contribution.

-- Tom

[valis]

total greenland glacier melt and total antarctic melt would raise the global sea level 40 feet, according to some show on history channel recently. I don't know where they got their facts, but they estimated that it's 20' on either side, and the fun part is that it's 20' of non-salinized water, which in turn would lower the salinization content of the ocean overall, which would have it's own interesting effects.

[LANMaster]

Gore said yesterday that the planet has a fever.
I'm sure he deduced this notion by cramming a rectal themometer in the ground somewhere neat Butte, Arizona in the middle of the Summer.

He's prescribing that we bleed the patient of it's economic resources until it has no more money and becomes dependent upon the government for its welfare.

Yup ..... He's a Democrat all right.

[lotuseclat79]

Originally Posted by valis

total greenland glacier melt and total antarctic melt would raise the global sea level 40 feet, according to some show on history channel recently. I don't know where they got their facts, but they estimated that it's 20' on either side, and the fun part is that it's 20' of non-salinized water, which in turn would lower the salinization content of the ocean overall, which would have it's own interesting effects.

Hi valis,

Here's my source of information for the 150 ft.

-- Tom

[valis]

good read, tom. Thanks. Here's a link to a password protected page (hence the cached version) of what I saw on the history channel. Please excuse the colors, they were obviously the search items.

tim

[lotuseclat79]

Antarctic melting may be speeding up
Article here.

Rising sea levels and melting polar ice-sheets are at upper limits of projections, leaving some human population centers already unable to cope, top world scientists say as they analyze latest satellite data.

-- Tom

[lotuseclat79]

Originally Posted by valis

good read, tom. Thanks. Here's a link to a password protected page (hence the cached version) of what I saw on the history channel. Please excuse the colors, they were obviously the search items.

tim

Hi Tim,

Good read also! Thanks!

Colors, colors - I don't need no stinking colors! I don't allow system colors nor the default settings of the webpages. I use currently - a black screen background, and a browser background of a shady dark grey with yellow lettering with blue hyperlinks to unvisited links, and black to visited links. I'm experimenting wrt backgrounds and webpage colors - some work, some don't. I'd especially like to see a finer grain of control over web objects like mouseover backgrounds - that's the ticket!

-- Tom

[LANMaster]

Isn't is a wee bit odd that the very people (generally) that are screaming over global warming, tend to be the same people that believe species will naturally evolve to better adapt to environmental changes?

Just sayin'

[sy2]

Originally Posted by LANMaster

Isn't is a wee bit odd that the very people (generally) that are screaming over global warming, tend to be the same people that believe species will naturally evolve to better adapt to environmental changes?

Just sayin'

So is this calling natural selection into question now also, in addition to evolution?

You could reword this to say that those who seem to believe global warming is a natural phenomenon are also those who tend to believe that "God did it, and he'll take care of it."

And I'm pretty unbiased on this - I believe in evolution by natural selection wholeheartedly, I don't subscribe to any particular belief in a higher being as my creator, and I think that global warming may very well be a natural cycle that we'd be experiencing with or without humanity's emissions taken into consideration. I'm also open to the possibility that I'm dead wrong, although I'm very certain about #1, pretty damn certain about #2, and merely confident about #3.

So take THAT stereotypes.