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27-Mar-2007, 06:20 PM #1681
Global Warming & Wars for Polar Wealth



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The battle lines of future conflict between nations are emerging along the fault lines of the polar ice caps of our planet. An international race for oil, fish, diamonds and shipping routes, is being accelerated by the impact of global warming on Earth's frozen north.

The latest report by the UN Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change says the ice cap is warming faster than the rest of the planet and ice is receding. It's a catastrophic scenario for the Arctic ecosystem, for polar bears and other wildlife, and for indigineous populations like the Inuit and the Sami whose ancient cultures depend on frozen waters.

The U.S. Geological Survey estimates the Arctic has as much as 25 per cent of the world's undiscovered oil and gas. Moscow reportedly sees the potential of minerals in its slice of the Arctic sector approaching $2 trillion. Major petroleum companies are now focusing research and exploration on the far north. Russia is developing the vast Shkotman natural gas field off its Arctic coast.

The melting ice cap could open the North Pole region to easy navigation for five months a year, according to the latest Arctic Climate Impact Assessment, revolutionizing shipping the way the Suez Canal did in the 20th Century. Up until recently, reports said it would take 100 years for the ice to melt, but new studies say it could happen in 10-15 years, and the United States, Canada, Russia, Denmark and Norway have been rushing to stake their claims in the Arctic.

In 2004, Russian President Vladimir Putin called the sovereignty issue "a serious, competitive battle" that "will unfold more and more fiercely." Posted by Casey Kazan.
at The Daily Galaxy here.

Source Article: Fighting over the Arctic By Doug Mellgren here.

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27-Mar-2007, 06:43 PM #1682
Somebody might want to think about putting the Sun out because thats what produces all the co2 and heat on this planet, no Sun no problem

yeah about those lights bulbs, someone might want to check out how much pollution the light bulb factory puts out, and also good news Red China has passed the US in global CO2 emmisions, maybe you should all go over there and hassle them for awhile, I'm sure Al has Red chinese connections he can contact.
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27-Mar-2007, 07:20 PM #1683
Holy Cow!! Batman! ... that's a fist-size Beeno for ruminants!!


Can monster pill stop an ill wind?
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German scientists have developed a pill that stops cattle breaking wind.
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Winfried Drocher, head of the faculty for animal nutrition at the university, said: "It will make this energy available for the cows' metabolism. The cattle can use the methane to produce glucose instead of just passing it out and it will enable them to produce more milk."
Now if only they'd perfect one to stop the deniers from passing ill wind ... I'm thinkin' it will take a football-size pill to knock some of them out
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27-Mar-2007, 07:27 PM #1684
cork a cow, save the planet. The vegans want to make us all vegetarians, however that wont work because then we would be passing the gas instead of the cattle, the methane has to go somewhere. Someone on a vegan diet has to eat much more plant matter to get the needed nutriant to survive and that means gas, and methane is much worse than co2 at causing greenhouse effect.
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27-Mar-2007, 07:30 PM #1685
keep in mind that 95% of the co2 is from natural causes, manmade is only about 5% and 25% of that is the USA, by my calcs thats 1.25% of the global emmissions so change all the light bulbs you want and you wont even put a dent in it.
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27-Mar-2007, 07:35 PM #1686
Lawnmowers cause a lot too.Everybody can just stop cutting their yards. The husband can say but honey its for the good of the planet
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27-Mar-2007, 07:46 PM #1687
Ah yes ... in the world according to the likes of Littles and Brites ... they's[sic] got all the answers, grasped all the logistical efficiencies. To them the following probably rings true: what does a cow eat? Hay and corn. And what are these? Vegetables. So a steak is nothing more than an efficient mechanism of delivering vegetables to the body.
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27-Mar-2007, 07:55 PM #1688
We own cows angus . I know all about them
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We own cows angus . I know all about them
In that case you must be very familiar with Prairie Oysters, which explains a lot, thanks .... btw, my name is not Angus
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27-Mar-2007, 08:08 PM #1690
Yep I did leave comma out but not by intent , just typing fast for me.
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28-Mar-2007, 06:58 AM #1691
I wish i had all the answers, right now i have a bunch of questions. The most compelling thing in favor of man made global warming is the fact that green house gases have apparently risen coinciding exactly with the industrial revolution, late 1800's, through the 20th century to present. If there was a balance that even by that 5% we have somehow messed up some natural cycle then it may be true that our burning of fossil fuels together with clear cutting, agriculture, population explosion, etc., we may have caused a tipping point. To stop it we would essentially have to starve our population back to the 1700's or earlier, that would mean no massive agriculture, no cars, no electricity, no TV, no meat eating, no making babies, etc. or we can just wait and let the global warming sort it out. As we all know nature always has the last word anyway.
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28-Mar-2007, 11:07 PM #1692
Apparantly someone here needs a lesson on science. It's all related man, just think!!

1. There are many plants that are much more nutirent efficient than meat itself. For example, soybean will provide all the meat content you will ever need. Wheat and a salad will do the rest, and it wieghts less than a barbeque! Now think of the foold chain. You're leaving out a big part of science in this. Coincidence? Species on the bottom of the food chain have the greatest potential energy. As we go up the food chain, less energy is transferd. That means if we started out with a 95% relative energy plant, then only 5% would be available once we get the meat! That explains why rodents dont like eating alot now does it?

Also take into consideration the energy WASTED to produce all the meat the we have. I'm not even going to go through this. Now I'm not saying go vegan here, in fact it would be heretical for me to do so, Im just getting the facts right.

Methane has great potential to be a greenhouse gas, why dont we focus on both!

You cannot be serious if you say man made c02 is not affecting the environment. Don't spin the facts like Bush. CFC's are dangerous ozone depleting chemicals which can last in the atmosphere; carbon is an organic substance in solid state. Now any carbon that was produced in the 1800's is bad, in fact quite horrible, but I'm sure emissions today surpass the Industrial revolution's. Now that China and India are turning on, we have 2 instances of 1800, not one.


Apparently you are not in touch with innovation. There is goethermal, hydropower, solar, wind, etc power that can easily replace natural gas consumption in the US easily. If you insisnt I will post the facts, however as a scientific hobbyist i assure you I provide authentic results ;p
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29-Mar-2007, 09:36 AM #1693
Cities at Risk of Rising Sea Levels
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More than two-thirds of the world's large cities are in areas vulnerable to global warming and rising sea levels, and millions of people are at risk of being swamped by flooding and intense storms, according to a new study released Wednesday.

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29-Mar-2007, 09:39 AM #1694
Will climate change kill the Amazon?
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The leakage of fires from deforested areas. Credit: Liana Anderson.

One of the most profound predicted impacts of climate change was discussed in a landmark conference at Oriel College by scientists, conservationists and policymakers from Europe and North and South America.

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29-Mar-2007, 09:43 AM #1695
Drought, heat kill Arizona 'sky islands'
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Arizona's "sky islands," mountainside oases that provide a cool lush retreat from the desert, are falling victim to higher temperatures and a long drought.

"A lot of people think climate change and the ecological repercussions are 50 years away," said Thomas Swetnam, head of the Laboratory of Tree-Ring Research at the University of Arizona in Tucson. "But it's happening now in the West. The data is telling us that we are in the middle of one of the first big indicators of climate change impacts in the continental United States."

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P.S. I hear the Canadian geese are flying back up to Canada - good riddance I say - we've had enough of their poop.
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