[valis]

hah! That reminds of when the Budweiser Rocket set out to break the speed of sound, and the radar returned a speed of 27 mph.....picked up a pickup truck in the background instead of the rocket car.

but you should've seen the faces on those boys.

[LANMaster]

I wonder who owns the airplane. Looks like an Eastern Bloc moniker, and a Mig-style tail.

Perhaps it belongs to Al Gore.

[lotuseclat79]

MIT sees acceleration in US greenhouse emissions
Article here.

U.S. greenhouse gas emissions could grow more quickly in the next 50 years than in the previous half-century, and technological change may cause increased emissions rather than control them, according to a new study by an MIT economist and his colleague.

-- Tom

[lotuseclat79]

Don't you feel bad now?!

Ref: digg.com

-- Tom

[LANMaster]

Originally Posted by lotuseclat79

Don't you feel bad now?!

Ref: digg.com

-- Tom

Nope. Not in the least. Why should I? It is a natural phenomena.
Polar bears will simply have to adapt, evolve, or perish.

If you feel that humanity is to blame for global climate change, then I have a solution for you that will eliminate your carbon footprint altogether.

[lizard]

Originally Posted by lotuseclat79

Hey! Where'd you get that picture of LAN on his deniers podium?

[LANMaster]

Originally Posted by lizard

Hey! Where'd you get that picture of LAN on his deniers podium?

For the record, I do not deny the cyclical change in the climate and a trend of warming.
Ony the rate at which it is happening, the natural cycle will naturally change, and that mankind is a significant contributor to it.

[lizard]

Originally Posted by LANMaster

Nope. Not in the least. Why should I? It is a natural phenomena.

No it isn't. Even your government says it isn't. What are you, anti-American? If you're not with them, you're against them.
Geez, I think that even your 'hopefuls' are addressing the issue. Who you gonna vote for? Ya gonna put your 'x' in the box with your name beside it?

Polar bears will simply have to adapt, evolve, or perish.

Simply? Sure, LAN, like all the other species on the planet, including humans.
But LAN's O.K. So adapt or die. Simple.

If you feel that humanity is to blame for global climate change.........

Feel? Have you been keeping up on ANY news in the past couple of years?

[LANMaster]

I submit that humaity's part in global climate change is insignificant, and that there is no concensus with regard to humanity's impact among the scientific community.
But there is a hyper bias of a political nature against Capitalism. And that is what I feel is the primary motivation of the hype.
You can blame Al Gore for that .... or you can credit him for that. You decide.
All depends on how deep your bias runs. I suspect pretty deep.

[lizard]

Originally Posted by LANMaster

For the record, I do not deny the cyclical change in the climate and a trend of warming.
Ony the rate at which it is happening,...

Then, what do you deny about the rate it is happening?

... the natural cycle will naturally change,

Yes, and become unnatural.

and that mankind is a significant contributor to it.

Agreed.

[lizard]

Originally Posted by LANMaster

I submit that humaity's part in global climate change is insignificant, and that there is no concensus with regard to humanity's impact among the scientific community.

The IPCC doesn't have it that way, LAN. They won the Nobel Peace Prize. (Al Gore is just the mouthpiece) They aren't a gang of climate change terrorists.

But there is a hyper bias of a political nature against Capitalism. And that is what I feel is the primary motivation of the hype.

Capitalism is good. It's also good to stop counting money for awhile and look around sometimes.

You can blame Al Gore for that .... or you can credit him for that. You decide.

I don't do anything either way. I ignore Al Gore.

All depends on how deep your bias runs. I suspect pretty deep.

Yeah, it does run deep. Completely above politics. But if you feel you must, then you can dump my views into whatever political can you wish. Jibber-jabbering about politics does nothing to the science.

[Gabriel]

Originally Posted by LANMaster

For the record, I do not deny the cyclical change in the climate and a trend of warming.
Ony the rate at which it is happening, the natural cycle will naturally change, and that mankind is a significant contributor to it.

Looks like it's happenin' fast for that Polar Bear LAN

[LANMaster]

Originally Posted by lizard

Then, what do you deny about the rate it is happening?

The allegations of concensus about the increase and the flasified data by leaders of the science community, such as Hansen @ NASA.

Yes, and become unnatural.

Is hunamity not a part of nature?
Are you admitting we may have been placed here by a creator?

Agreed.

'bout time.

[LANMaster]

Originally Posted by lizard

The IPCC doesn't have it that way, LAN. They won the Nobel Peace Prize. (Al Gore is just the mouthpiece) They aren't a gang of climate change terrorists.

Perhaps not, but they are (for the most part) biased to the left.

Capitalism is good. It's also good to stop counting money for awhile and look around sometimes.

Of course.
Perhaps yopu have noticed that I have supported the clean air act, the clean water act and other environmental protection bills. It's not all about politics for me, contrary to the rumor mill in this place.

I don't do anything either way. I ignore Al Gore.

Of course you ignore him. He is moputhing your side of the argument. So what iof he's out and out lying. So long as he spouts your side of the argument, you're content to ignore him, and would never speak up against the lies which are SPECIFICALLY DESIGNED to manifest a leftist agenda .... which I am not so certain ytou don't outright support.

Yeah, it does run deep. Completely above politics. But if you feel you must, then you can dump my views into whatever political can you wish. Jibber-jabbering about politics does nothing to the science.

Ahh, but what about when the science is used (or in this case mis-used) to advance a political agenda?
Is that okay in your eyes? I believe that it is. So long as it is politically adventageous.

Look, I support spending more, much more on research and the development of cost effective fuel alternatives.
I enjoy clean air and water as much as the next guy.

Good day to you, Lizard.

[LANMaster]

Originally Posted by Gabriel

Looks like it's happenin' fast for that Polar Bear LAN

The picture proves nothing.
We don't see the massive fjord-like iceberg behind the camera.

The polar bear may have just been taking a break from fishing.