[Stoner]

I see copy and paste arguments are the rule for today.

[SlackAli]

[QUOTE=LANMaster;5433549]Dishonest Political Tampering with the Science on Global Warming

LAN, I went to that link to see who the British Peer was who was being quoted. The link you've posted does not refer directly to what you've quote (unless I've missed something).Not criticizing, just interested

[Stoner]

Here's who is being copied and pasted.
Not exactly a scientist.

http://harriettejohnson.com/resumetx.html

more:
http://harriettejohnson.com/resumetx.html

[LANMaster]

Originally Posted by SlackAli

LAN, I went to that link to see who the British Peer was who was being quoted. The link you've posted does not refer directly to what you've quote (unless I've missed something).Not criticizing, just interested

No it doesn't. It should though.

[Stoner]

Maybe, LAN, you should check out the integrity of HeartLand Institute.
Looks like they can be bought.
http://www.sourcewatch.org/index.php...land_Institute

[LANMaster]

Originally Posted by Stoner

Maybe, LAN, you should check out the integrity of HeartLand Institute.
Looks like they can be bought.
http://www.sourcewatch.org/index.php...land_Institute

From your link

Originally Posted by Joseph Bast - President HeartLand Institute

For many years, we provided a complete list of Heartland's corporate and foundation donors on this Web site and challenged other think tanks and advocacy groups to do the same. To our knowledge, not a single group followed our lead. However, critics who couldn’t or wouldn’t engage in fair debate over our ideas found the donor list a convenient place to find the names of unpopular companies or foundations, which they used in ad hominem attacks against us. Even reporters from time to time seemed to think reporting the identities of one or two donors--out of a list of hundreds--was a fair way of representing our funding or our motivation in taking the positions expressed in our publications. After much deliberation and with some regret, we now keep confidential the identities of all our donors.

Can't say I blame Them one bit.

You have actually helped to strengthen my opinion of the group.

[Stoner]

Originally Posted by LANMaster

From your link
Can't say I blame Them one bit.

You have actually helped to strengthen my opinion of the group.

Guess you missed the lengthy article on how the Tobacco industry influenced their support
Yeah.....I suppose you would support them .........

[Stoner]

Originally Posted by LANMaster

From your link
Can't say I blame Them one bit.

You have actually helped to strengthen my opinion of the group.

BTW, you forgot to post the intro to the last quote of yours:

While Heartland once disclosed its major supporter, it now refuses to publicly disclose who its corporate and foundation funders are

Well, I guess so, eh, LAN.

[Stoner]

Wikipedia:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Heartland_Institute

The Institute was a member organization of the Cooler Heads Coalition which questioned the impact of global warming and felt that climate control policies hurt consumers. The Board of Directors for the Heartland Institute includes Thomas Walton, an executive of General Motors Corporation.

surprise, surprise..........

[Stoner]

Crippes!

And some people complain about Al Gore being involved _

[LANMaster]

Originally Posted by Stoner

Guess you missed the lengthy article on how the Tobacco industry influenced their support
Yeah.....I suppose you would support them .........

I would suspect that because of their stance, they seeked out the tobacco industry, as opposed to the visa versa.

[Stoner]

Originally Posted by LANMaster

I would suspect that because of their stance, they seeked out the tobacco industry, as opposed to the visa versa.

Could be......don't see how that makes them appear more respectful, though.
Influence peddlers for hire is the imagery you propose.

[LANMaster]

Global Warming Hoax Is Hitting Us in the Stomach
Due to the global warming hoax and the farm lobby, the political expedience of biofuels outweighs their economic inefficiency. That's why we heavily subsidize them with our tax dollar. But the flagrant waste of our money by profligate bureaucrats isn't the highest price we will pay for biofuel foolishness. The cost of food is being sent toward the stratosphere.

Corn-based ethanol doesn't just drive up corn prices. Because other crops are sacrificed to grow the corn, and because corn products are used to feed livestock, most all food prices are effected.

Consumer grocery costs are already up by 5% over the last year, and feed costs by as much as 30%. But that's only the beginning. Congress is about to double the mandate for ethanol.

Complains Jay Truitt, vice president of government affairs for the National Cattlemen's Beef Association:

We continue to be caught up in this fervor, almost spirituality, about ethanol. You can't get anyone to consider that there is a consequence to these actions. We think there will be a day when people ask, "Why in the world did we do this?"

The answer is simple: because politicians are irresponsible fools, and moonbattery is ubiquitous.

At least corn farmers benefit. A record 13.2 billion bushels were produced this year, yet the price just keeps rising. Unfortunately everyone else suffers. But it's wonderful to know that bureaucrats are doing something about the imaginary climate change crisis.



Drink up while you can, girls. Brewers have to compete with
livestock farmers for a diminishing supply of barley.

[Nesjemannen]

Situation of Norway

Where did all our snow go, now the green has come to be,
Who polluted our forrests, made trees wither, as do we,
Well, the earth has fever, but we can save it in many ways - all we need is to see.

[lizard]

Originally Posted by Sins

Interesting article. Anyone consider whether or not the melt weight would be sufficient to cause a shift in the earth's poles, i.e. The HAB theory?

Since it's the Arctic that seems to be bearing the brunt of Global Warming right now, I wouldn't worry much about a shift in the poles. But the excessive meltwater should have some effect on the hydrosphere, on sea level at coastal areas, and on global tides and their associated forces.