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09-Jan-2008, 11:26 AM
#3331 | Quote:
Originally Posted by Stoner Just imagine, Gabriel.........
If Obama and Hillary came out and denied global warming and at the same time Romney and Huckabee embraced the concept........
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09-Jan-2008, 11:54 AM
#3332 | Quote: NOAA Confirms Start Of New Sunspot Cycle
New Sunspot Activity Marks Start Of Latest 11-Year Solar Cycle, NOAA Reports WASHINGTON, Jan. 4, 2008
(AP) A new solar cycle is under way. The National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration said Friday that the first sunspot of a new 11-year cycle has appeared in the sun's northern hemisphere.
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10-Jan-2008, 02:19 PM
#3333 | Pat Sajak has an interestin opinion piece ..... here Quote:
There are apparently tens of millions of people around the world who are convinced global warming is real, and mankind (particularly American mankind) is responsible. Further, they believe utterly catastrophic results are imminent unless we drastically alter our lifestyles -- and soon. These alterations include the things we eat, our transportation, our daily work and leisure habits, and even the number of children we should have. The problem is there are also tens of millions of people around the world who are skeptical of this theory, and, despite one side’s claims the debate is settled, a significant and growing number of climate experts keep challenging their conclusions.
So, those who believe disaster is around the corner face a dilemma: while they’re educating their fellow citizens and demanding governments regulate believers and non-believers alike, the problem continues, and the date of the world’s doom draws ever closer. But there is a solution. It’s relatively simple, can begin immediately, and will change the dynamics of global warming overnight. Instead of continuing to preach to the rest of us, the true believers need to step forward and set an example. I’m not talking about recycling Evian bottles; I’m talking about giving up cars and moving into smaller houses or apartments, or even forming communes where people can live simpler, more Earth-friendly lives. Yes, I’m talking about living the kinds of lives they want all of us to live.
Such a movement could literally start tomorrow. It would need a leader, of course; someone who could inspire others to choose a more spartan lifestyle. The obvious choice would be Al Gore, who already has a loyal following. If he would eschew large homes, gas-guzzling cars, private jets and the consumption of meat, millions more would likely do the same. If enough people joined the cause, Mr. Gore and his followers would be able to demonstrate the results of this new way of living in very short order. They could lead by example. They could create a movement. They could have uniforms and badges and secret handshakes. The could have their own reality TV show. In short, they could become a major force for change. Carmakers would be driven out of business or forced to dramatically alter their products to meet the demands of this eco-friendly Gorian tsunami. Companies of all stripes would, similarly, have to adapt or perish.
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10-Jan-2008, 03:25 PM
#3334 | Quote:
Originally Posted by lizard Yeah, And the climate would just go nuts!  | And LANs observation of 3 ice ages in 10,000 years would probably happen in a matter of months   | | Senior Member with 1,614 posts. | | Join Date: May 2004 Location: Montreal, Canada. Experience: Usually old enough to know better... |
10-Jan-2008, 07:54 PM
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10-Jan-2008, 09:08 PM
#3336 | The last remnant of the last Ice Age is going fast... Canada's oldest ice formation melting at alarming rate, scientists say Margaret Munro, CanWest News Service
Published: Wednesday, January 09, 2008 Quote:
Canada's oldest ice, the Barnes Ice Cap, which covers close to 6,000 square kilometers of Baffin Island, is shrinking at a dramatically accelerating rate, says a U.S. research team. It reports the ice cap has recently been thinning at almost 10 times the rate it was 25 years ago.
While not a big surprise -- glaciers and ice fields throughout the Canadian Arctic are wasting away as the climate warms -- researchers say the demise of the Barnes Ice Cap is particularly noteworthy. It is the last remnant of vast kilometres-thick Laurentide ice sheet that blanketed Canada during the last ice age.
"The oldest ice we have in Canada is in the Barnes Ice Cap," says glaciologist Martin Sharp, of the University of Alberta, noting that some of the ice is "20,000 years plus."
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So it looks like the last Ice Age started about 20,000 years ago, and, since they're happening about every 100,000 years or so, it looks to me that we might not be due for another one of those for about 80,000 years. I'll check interglacial frequency for those numbers.
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11-Jan-2008, 11:24 AM
#3337 | Lastest projection on the Artice Ice cap is that it won't last much beyond 2012 and might even be totally gone by then!
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12-Jan-2008, 09:57 AM
#3338 | Inhofe's 400 Global Warming Deniers Debunked
Article here.
List of "Scientists" Includes Economists, Amateurs, TV Weathermen and Industry Hacks
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14-Jan-2008, 09:11 AM
#3339 | A Warming Climate Can Support Glacial Ice
Article here.
New research indicates glacial ice existed on earth during intense period of global warming
Older Arctic Sea Ice Is Giving Way To Young, Thin Ice, Says CU-Boulder Study
Article here.
A new indicates older, multiyear sea ice in the Arctic is giving way to younger, thinner ice, making it more susceptible to record summer sea-ice lows like the one that occurred in 2007.
Why Isn't Antarctica Melting?
Article here.
A Tough Nut for Climate Scientists – and Haven for Global Warming Denialists
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14-Jan-2008, 05:20 PM
#3340 | Survey shows eco-warriors are worst polluters Quote:
A survey of travel habits has revealed that the most environmentally conscious people are also the biggest polluters.
"Green" consumers have some of the biggest carbon footprints because they are still hooked on flying abroad or driving their cars while their adherence to the green cause is mostly limited to small gestures.
Identified as "eco-adopters", they are most likely to be members of an environmental organisation, buy green products such as detergents, recycle and have a keen interest in green issues.
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16-Jan-2008, 12:42 PM
#3341 | Enter contest, debunk 'global warming,' win big
Announcing 'The Sky's Not Falling' video/essay competition Quote:
It's a new year, and the kids are back in school – which means more indoctrination about the dire threat to the planet's very existence, glaciers melting, seas rising catastrophically and all the rest – due to man-made global warming.
If you're tired of seeing your children fed a steady diet of global warming hysteria and would like to fight back, here's your chance. By entering "The Sky's Not Falling" video/essay contest, you can tell the world what you think, have fun and win big – all at the same time.
The contest, sponsored by World Ahead Media, partners with WorldNetDaily on the website's book publishing division WND Books, is designed to highlight the absurdities, untruths and downright lies that children are being taught daily about "climate change" in public school.
"As a parent of two grade-schoolers and a natural resources policy expert, I've heard some whoppers about global warming," says author Holly Fretwell, whose book, "The Sky's Not Falling! Why It's OK to Chill about Global Warming," is specifically designed to set the record straight. "If you're as tired as I am of the environmental bill of goods our kids are being handed at school, now's your chance to tell the world!"
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16-Jan-2008, 01:41 PM
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16-Jan-2008, 02:12 PM
#3343 | By all means, children, debunk your little hearts out ... but please, DON'T EAT SOY!!
Because according to LANMeister's latest source (read: biased, politicized, mindless, etc., crap) WorldNetDaily, SOY IS MAKING KIDS 'GAY' !
Last edited by compushlep : 16-Jan-2008 03:32 PM.
Reason: fixed an 'invalid' link to an article which itself should be invalidated
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16-Jan-2008, 02:19 PM
#3344 | Quote:
Originally Posted by compushlep By all means, children, debunk your little hearts out ... but please, DON'T EAT SOY!!
Because according to LANMeister's latest source (read: biased, politicized, mindless, etc., crap) WorldNetDaily, SOY IS MAKING KIDS 'GAY' !  | Your soy link is invalid. | | Distinguished Member with 2,387 posts. | | Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: BC, Canada |
16-Jan-2008, 03:44 PM
#3345 | Quote:
Originally Posted by LANMaster Your soy link is invalid.  | That can be fixed (and was) ... unlike your constant denier rants and related spewage
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