[Stoner]

Morning Tim

Watts up, Doc?

[valis]

usual......ssdd....

how's life up north? Supposed to get all the way down in the 50's tonight....people are breaking out their mittens.....

[Stoner]

Finally had a freeze warning last night, so our killing frost seems to have just come and I expect to be cleaning out the garden beds soon.
The grass hasn't grown much so I expect only one more cut ( whew! )
Fallen wood is all cleaned up so I can start trimming some of those trees that were damaged by Ike.

[LANMaster]

Originally Posted by pyritechips

Wow! You really are into the rightwing-nut conspiracy scene, aren't you? Clicking just a few of those links is pretty convincing of that. Is is possible for you to discuss any topic without fearmongering about some plot to destroy everything America stands for? I bet you can wrap a simple hockey game in the stars and stripes.

The facts don't lie. I selected those sites on purpose to show you how the issue is being used by the kooks for political gain with a strong socialist agenda.

[LANMaster]

Originally Posted by Stoner

Posting more guano from your favorite blogger, I see.
Watts' graph only proves that yearly stats are variable and, LAN, if you bothered to actually look at that graph, you'll see the same situation existed for 2005 and 2006.
It's trends that are of importance.......not your consistent simplicity of year to year or even day to day differences.........but then I think you know that and don't have anything of value to post but the same or similar comments from the same blogger. This is about the 3rd time you've posted the same or similar from Watts.



This is interesting.
Look at the graph closer.
More ice melted in 2008 than in 2007.

You look at the graph closer. You are mistaken.

[LANMaster]

Originally Posted by Stoner

Finally had a freeze warning last night, so our killing frost seems to have just come and I expect to be cleaning out the garden beds soon.
The grass hasn't grown much so I expect only one more cut ( whew! )
Fallen wood is all cleaned up so I can start trimming some of those trees that were damaged by Ike.

Our first frost warning was a couple nights ago.
Bring on winter!!!!
Winter kills the bugs .... I hate bugs!

[valis]

I note you didn't address my post, Lan....any reasons for that?

[valis]

Originally Posted by Stoner

Finally had a freeze warning last night, so our killing frost seems to have just come and I expect to be cleaning out the garden beds soon.
The grass hasn't grown much so I expect only one more cut ( whew! )
Fallen wood is all cleaned up so I can start trimming some of those trees that were damaged by Ike.

still mowing down here.....usually mow into mid novemeber, start again in march.....winter is a theory, at best, down here......

[LANMaster]

Originally Posted by valis

I note you didn't address my post, Lan....any reasons for that?

Not my job to follow you around and collect your droppings in a little plastic baggie.


Regardless, you and Stoner obviously disagree, since Jack thinks there has been a decrease in sea ice since last year.

[LANMaster]

Originally Posted by valis

still mowing down here.....usually mow into mid novemeber, start again in march.....winter is a theory, at best, down here......

I haven't had to mow in 3 weeks.
I expect to mow once more this season, then I'll be good until May, '09

[Stoner]

Originally Posted by LANMaster

................Jack thinks there has been a decrease in sea ice since last year.

I suggest you read what I post and not distort it into untruths.
I'm about to call you a liar if you persist.

This was my post:

More ice melted in 2008 than in 2007.

That is correct according to the graph you posted.
All one has to do is read the graph and compare the max and minimums of 2007 and 2008.
More ice melted in 2008 than in 2007 even though the minimum ice extent was greater in 2008 than 2007.
It's simple math that Watts doesn't want noticed and you seem to be trying to cover up by distorting what I post.

I'm calling you out on this one.

[Stoner]

Originally Posted by LANMaster

You look at the graph closer. You are mistaken.

I suggest you learn to read a graph and learn basic mathematics.

[Stoner]

Originally Posted by LANMaster

The facts don't lie. I selected those sites on purpose to show you how the issue is being used by the kooks for political gain with a strong socialist agenda.

The recent sites you've been posting have been shown , repeatedly, to misrepresent data.
"Figures don't lie, but liars often figure".
That seems to be the rule of the sites you use.

[LANMaster]

Originally Posted by Stoner

I suggest you read what I post and not distort it into untruths.
I'm about to call you a liar if you persist.

This was my post:


That is correct according to the graph you posted.
All one has to do is read the graph and compare the max and minimums of 2007 and 2008.
More ice melted in 2008 than in 2007 even though the minimum ice extent was greater in 2008 than 2007.
It's simple math that Watts doesn't want noticed and you seem to be trying to cover up by distorting what I post.

I'm calling you out on this one.

Well, I clearly misunderstood what you meant. And for that I apologize.

However, Nowhere on this graph do I see the red line dipping below the yellow line.

[LANMaster]

Originally Posted by Stoner

The recent sites you've been posting have been shown , repeatedly, to misrepresent data.
"Figures don't lie, but liars often figure".
That seems to be the rule of the sites you use.

My examples were primarily the kooky left-leaning sites that are using natural climate change to push forth a socialist agenda.