[GoneForNow]

Originally Posted by WarC

I think it is the other way around, I think since Vietnam there has been a growing movement to take power -away- from the executive branch, especially where it concerns war and the military.

The great impetus for restrictions on presidential powers was Watergate not so much Vietnam.

[Mulderator]

Originally Posted by gbrumb

The great impetus for restrictions on presidential powers was Watergate not so much Vietnam.

That's true, although the Vietnam war altered the perception of government that the average person had--changing it from one of trust to much more one of mistrust. Watergate of course came on the heals of the Vietnam war so their was a lot of public support for neuturing the power of the President.

[Mulderator]

Originally Posted by oldie

I don't know about me being on drugs young man, but I'm still licensed to prescribe should you require I also have a neighbour (Billy Connolly) who's wife Pamela has a practice in LA. She is an eminent psychologist. Would you like me to make an appointment for you

Oldie

Is she good looking? If so, go ahead and make me an appointment!

And as to drugs--yes--I'll take some Xanax and Ambien!

[sglv]

Originally Posted by linskyjack

Mulder served in the Boyscouts. The closest Mulder has been to the battlefield is aisle 4 at the local K-Mart trying to beat one of his neighbors for the Blue Light Special.

I'm not sure anyone under the age of 40 would have a clue what you're talking about You're aging us linsky - I haven't seen a blue light special since I was 10 years old

[ekim68]

Originally Posted by sglv

I'm not sure anyone under the age of 40 would have a clue what you're talking about You're aging us linsky - I haven't seen a blue light special since I was 10 years old

That's funny. Thanks, I resemble that remark...

[sglv]

Originally Posted by ekim68

That's funny. Thanks, I resemble that remark...

LOL - please tell me you weren't one of those middle-aged women with curlers in their hair running from all directiions toward that blue light - used to scare the heck out of me.

[ekim68]

Originally Posted by Mulder

And that makes your attempt to disparage the military pilots even more despicable, IMO.

No, what is despicable is a man who is president and didn't finish his military obligation...

[combsdon]

Originally Posted by oldie

This is an outsiders (Brits) view on the situation. By situation I mean that of TSGs members who regularly post in the debate sections, particularly CD.

(1) The Republican element on this board appear to have the upper hand, sort of a monopoly band of .. get the liberal buggers etc etc.

(2) The Democrats here at TSGs appear to wait in the side wings. My question to them is .. are you the silent majority? .. then if so .. for Petes sake speak up and be heard.

As for the Liberals .. are they the Greens?

Oildie

.......can ya hear me now..................................

[combsdon]

Originally Posted by WarC

To me, supporting the troops means respecting their mission and their chain of command. I believe that is the obligation of citizens while at war. Anything less hurts the effort and plays into the hands of the enemy through loss of morale, loss in recruitment, tactical stagnation, and political infighting.

..............and I think you're welcome to your opinion.......out of curiousity have you been in the military?..........

[combsdon]

Originally Posted by Mulder

That's true, although the Vietnam war altered the perception of government that the average person had--changing it from one of trust to much more one of mistrust. Watergate of course came on the heals of the Vietnam war so their was a lot of public support for neuturing the power of the President.

.....and maybe neuturing isn't such a bad idea...................

[poochee]

Originally Posted by combsdon

.....and maybe neuturing isn't such a bad idea...................

[sglv]

Originally Posted by combsdon

..............and I think you're welcome to your opinion.......out of curiousity have you been in the military?..........

I was, fortunately during peace time ... I agree with his opinion. Can't imagine any service member disagreeing with it.

[sglv]

Originally Posted by oldie
This is an outsiders (Brits) view on the situation. By situation I mean that of TSGs members who regularly post in the debate sections, particularly CD.

(1) The Republican element on this board appear to have the upper hand, sort of a monopoly band of .. get the liberal buggers etc etc.

(2) The Democrats here at TSGs appear to wait in the side wings. My question to them is .. are you the silent majority? .. then if so .. for Petes sake speak up and be heard.

As for the Liberals .. are they the Greens?

Oildie

I must have missed this.

Huh? Republicans are the majority here? Since when? I feel majorly outnumbered.

[sglv]

Originally Posted by ekim68

No, what is despicable is a man who is president and didn't finish his military obligation...

You know what I find despicable. I find it despicable that our troops aren't given what they're needed. They don't have proper armor. They can't build an armored vehicle that can withstand homemade bombs. They are not given what they need to win this war!

That our government won't, and I can't, send "Silly String" to Baghdad, Falujah, and the like to help save our young men's and women's lives, is ridiculous.

Silly String? Yes, Silly String. A simple can of silly string can save lives but we can't send it to them. Why? Because it's an aerosol. A simple can of silly string, at a cost of $2/can can be sprayed into a "potential" insurgent's home and detect booby traps without tripping the bombs.

Our goverment won't give it to them (b/c they won't pay for it) and civilians can't send it. What kind of nonsense is that?!!!

The red tape in place is a nightmare. I blame Congress and the Senate and our President and every single democrat out there who believes they know best. Our young troops are dying b/c of red tape.

The democrats are the controlling party now and they are the blame for every death from the day they took control as far I'm concerned. They are the blame b/c they are the ones who have blocked every attempt to win this war.

Of course, this is JMHO, but that's how I feel.

[bassetman]

Originally Posted by linskyjack

To the right supporting the troops means blindly listening to whatever the adminstration tells us vis a vis Iraq---It means never questioning authority, ie. Generals, Politicians etc. It means putting out your flag on Memorial Day and listening to Fox News.

Bingo!