[lexmarks567]

What the heck is going on around here

hour ago

HOUSTON - A NASA contract worker took a handgun inside an office building Friday at the Johnson Space Center and fatally shot a hostage before killing himself, police said. A second hostage escaped with minor injuries.

The gunman was able to take a snub-nosed revolver past NASA security and barricade himself in the building, which houses communications and tracking systems for the space shuttle.

NASA spokesman Doug Peterson said the agency would review its security.

"Any organization would take a good, hard look at the kind of review process we have with people," Peterson said.

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[katonca]

Evil has been set loose upon the Earth - prepare

[lexmarks567]

Originally Posted by katonca

Evil has been set loose upon the Earth - prepare

i say its spring fever

[katonca]

Maybe they should try fishing or BBQ'ing instead

[BanditFlyer]

Originally Posted by katonca

Evil has been set loose upon the Earth - prepare

I already got my hotdogs and marshmellows ready to roast.

Edit: Seriously though, what's the difference between what's happening now and what's been happening for the past ...... oh ... eternity or so?

[lexmarks567]

the way this thread is headed should i have it moved to CD

[katonca]

Originally Posted by BanditFlyer

I already got my hotdogs and marshmellows ready to roast.

Edit: Seriously though, what's the difference between what's happening now and what's been happening for the past ...... oh ... eternity or so?

Hey BF

I'm not old enough to answer that, BUT I believe the overall intensity of evil, corruption, deceit, etc is far greater now than years past. Plus I'm basing my statement from the religious side of things

[lexmarks567]

Originally Posted by katonca

Hey BF

I'm not old enough to answer that, BUT I believe the overall intensity of evil, corruption, deceit, etc is far greater now than years past. Plus I'm basing my statement from the religious side of things

with that post Im having this moved to CD as its now a religious debate

[katonca]

Originally Posted by lexmarks567

with that post Im having this moved to CD as its now a religious debate

Don't move it on my account, I was just answering a question.......no soap box preaching tonight

[BanditFlyer]

Originally Posted by katonca

Hey BF

I'm not old enough to answer that, BUT I believe the overall intensity of evil, corruption, deceit, etc is far greater now than years past. Plus I'm basing my statement from the religious side of things

Not quite sure I follow you.

I'm thinking the "evil" of the USA when Custer was rampaging through the west was pretty bad.

Corruption? How about the Teapot Dome Scandal? I realize that Clinton's selling of military secrets to the Chinese and other communist enemies of state in exchange for campaign contribution was perhaps the closest any US leader has come to downright treason - far worse than Benedict Arnold, but I thin kthat was the exception rather than the rule, in recent times.

Deceit? I agree with you on that one. The media has shown us that old lies won't be forgiven as quickly as politicians used to expect, so now they choose their words more carefully.

Still, I can't really see a trend happening here. Enlighten me.

Originally Posted by lexmarks567

the way this thread is headed should i have it moved to CD

[katonca]

Originally Posted by BanditFlyer

Not quite sure I follow you.

I'm thinking the "evil" of the USA when Custer was rampaging through the west was pretty bad.

Corruption? How about the Teapot Dome Scandal? I realize that Clinton's selling of military secrets to the Chinese and other communist enemies of state in exchange for campaign contribution was perhaps the closest any US leader has come to downright treason - far worse than Benedict Arnold, but I thin kthat was the exception rather than the rule, in recent times.

Deceit? I agree with you on that one. The media has shown us that old lies won't be forgiven as quickly as politicians used to expect, so now they choose their words more carefully.

Still, I can't really see a trend happening here. Enlighten me.

I'm not sure I can "enlighten" you. Being in my mid 40's I can remember "better times" and those "better times" may have only occurred in my city or as some have said here on TSG "in our minds". But if you are over the age of.....say 30 you too will remember the days in which you were not afraid to walk the streets after dusk, afraid your mom or a loved one will be accosted in the mall parking lot, afraid that your child will be stolen from in front of your home (and we could go on)..........BUT then of course maybe I'm only imagining these things are happening at an increasingly alarming rate. Probably not



Don'y bury your head in the sand my friend.

[BanditFlyer]

Originally Posted by katonca

I'm not sure I can "enlighten" you. Being in my mid 40's I can remember "better times" and those "better times" may have only occurred in my city or as some have said here on TSG "in our minds". But if you are over the age of.....say 30 you too will remember the days in which you were not afraid to walk the streets after dusk, afraid your mom or a loved one will be accosted in the mall parking lot, afraid that your child will be stolen from in front of your home (and we could go on)..........BUT then of course maybe I'm only imagining these things are happening at an increasingly alarming rate. Probably not



Don'y bury your head in the sand my friend.

I am over the age of 30. I remember those days. I also remember the risks I turned out to be taking. There were some murders that happened locally that I was unaware of at the time.

I was burying my head in the sand when I was younger and assumed I wasn't really taking any risks. Turns out I was taking bigger risks than I am now. And when I do it now, I have the benefit of a certain awareness. The very opposite of burying my head in the sand.

Until I see statistics, I'm likely to write a lot of this off as a lack of a connection between the feeling of fear and the actual presence of risk.

[katonca]

Originally Posted by BanditFlyer

I am over the age of 30. I remember those days. I also remember the risks I turned out to be taking. There were some murders that happened locally that I was unaware of at the time.

I was burying my head in the sand when I was younger and assumed I wasn't really taking any risks. Turns out I was taking bigger risks than I am now. And when I do it now, I have the benefit of a certain awareness. The very opposite of burying my head in the sand.

Until I see statistics, I'm likely to write a lot of this off as a lack of a connection between the feeling of fear and the actual presence of risk.

Risk, to me is perceived danger. Either real or delusional but when the nightly news is filled with reports of violent crimes, something is amiss.

[katonca]

Nice talking w/you concerning this BF, but I've gotta go. Me and S&W wish you happy trails

[BanditFlyer]

Originally Posted by katonca

Risk, to me is perceived danger. Either real or delusional but when the nightly news is filled with reports of violent crimes, something is amiss.

That's exactly what I was talking about - when I was younger my perception of danger was less than it is now, even though the actual danger I was in was greater.

As to the news, I'm guessing you watch it a lot more now than you did when you were younger? Most do, and I would think that would have a lot to do with the increased perception of danger(regardless of the actual change in that danger).

Originally Posted by katonca

Nice talking w/you concerning this BF, but I've gotta go. Me and S&W wish you happy trails

To you too.