[combsdon]

I heard yesterday that the speech by President Bush( on the aircraft carrier) was actually just off the coast of California and he didn't want to fly out to the ship on a helicopter because the airplane would have more effect. Also the troops on board that were returning home from Iraq got to wait a few hours longer to see their families because of the photo-op...............

[poochee]

Originally Posted by combsdon

I heard yesterday that the speech by President Bush( on the aircraft carrier) was actually just off the coast of California and he didn't want to fly out to the ship on a helicopter because the airplane would have more effect. Also the troops on board that were returning home from Iraq got to wait a few hours longer to see their families because of the photo-op...............

It's all about him.

[bassetman]

Originally Posted by poochee

It's all about him.

But of course!

[oldie]

Order Order .. ladies and gentlemen .. if you please this is your Commander in Chief. Respect please

[angelize56]

Good morning Don, poochee, Baklava and Bill!

Bush deserves no respect...

http://www.markfiore.com/animation/veto.html

[TooBad]

Originally Posted by angelize56

Good morning Don, poochee, Baklava and Bill!

Bush deserves no respect...

http://www.markfiore.com/animation/veto.html

Wrong!!! The President deserves respect until he is caught lying like slick Willey!!

Bush did not lie us into war and just because you don't have the guts or intelligence to see what the world is like post Clintoon, doesn't mean Bush was wrong. There were no good options left for Bush and taking out Saddam was official US policy from 1996 on. Remember who was President when that occured?? It is time to wake up and stop being "useful idiots" to our enemies!!!

This does not mean that I agree with everything or even most of what President Bush has done, but I refuse to get aid and support to our enemies when the future of civilization is on the line!

[angelize56]

Originally Posted by TooBad

Wrong!!! The President deserves respect until he is caught lying like slick Willey!!

Respect him if you want to...doesn't mean I have to! I guess it's alright with you Bush vetoed the bill and now hundreds more of our U.S. troops are going to die...yeah respect...not from me at the moment...

[Stoner]

The war in Iraq was based on several issues, major ones being the threat of non existent WMDs and the connection of al Qaeda to Saddam. Both issues are now known to be false.
Both issues were plants by the Bush administration for the purpose of initiating a war with the approval of the US public.

I refuse to get aid and support to our enemies when the future of civilization is on the line!

Agreed. But the situation today was derived from the actions of invading Iraq rather than directly facing al Qaeda in Afghanistan and putting an end to their influence.

[oldie]

Originally Posted by angelize56

Respect him if you want to...doesn't mean I have to! I guess it's alright with you Bush vetoed the bill and now hundreds more of our U.S. troops are going to die...yeah respect...not from me at the moment...

To witness TSGs angel of mercy showing a wee bit of anger is refreshing indeed leads me to believe there must be growing anger within the US regarding the death toll in Iraq. This is certainly the case in the UK.

Oldie

[linskyjack]

Originally Posted by TooBad

Wrong!!! The President deserves respect until he is caught lying like slick Willey!!

Bush did not lie us into war and just because you don't have the guts or intelligence to see what the world is like post Clintoon, doesn't mean Bush was wrong. There were no good options left for Bush and taking out Saddam was official US policy from 1996 on. Remember who was President when that occured?? It is time to wake up and stop being "useful idiots" to our enemies!!!

This does not mean that I agree with everything or even most of what President Bush has done, but I refuse to get aid and support to our enemies when the future of civilization is on the line!

No good options left for Bush----what a joke. Have you ever heard of the war in Afghanistan and the cornering of Bin Laden in Tora Bora and the fact that we didn't finish him off because we diverted men to Iraq? Give me a break.

[bill.aam]

Originally Posted by Stoner

The war in Iraq was based on several issues, major ones being the threat of non existent WMDs and the connection of al Qaeda to Saddam. Both issues are now known to be false.
Both issues were plants by the Bush administration for the purpose of initiating a war with the approval of the US public.


Agreed. But the situation today was derived from the actions of invading Iraq rather than directly facing al Qaeda in Afghanistan and putting an end to their influence.

What left wing blog/web site/editorial page did you read that on?

[TooBad]

Originally Posted by linskyjack

No good options left for Bush----what a joke. Have you ever heard of the war in Afghanistan and the cornering of Bin Laden in Tora Bora and the fact that we didn't finish him off because we diverted men to Iraq? Give me a break.

Believe what you want to believe. It is no skin off my nose if you like being ignorant about everything except Israel.

[TooBad]

Originally Posted by Stoner

The war in Iraq was based on several issues, major ones being the threat of non existent WMDs and the connection of al Qaeda to Saddam. Both issues are now known to be false.
Both issues were plants by the Bush administration for the purpose of initiating a war with the approval of the US public.


Agreed. But the situation today was derived from the actions of invading Iraq rather than directly facing al Qaeda in Afghanistan and putting an end to their influence.

Stoner, there is alot about you that I like. But your insistence on denying that there were WMD is insane and getting tiresome. Everybody, and I mean everybody knew that he had WMDs and had used them. Some, over 500 shells have been found (that they were old is on no consequence to the arguement, they existed and weren't supposed to!), and there are many credible reports that many of Saddam's WMDs were shipped off to Syria prior to our invasion.

I respectfully disagree that Iraq was or is a diversion from getting the job done in Afghanistan. Afghanistan is a very difficult country to accomplish much militarilly, just ask the Soviets, and the way we beat the Taliban was with very few special forces and much aid from the locals. That they allowed the locals to perform most of the "hunting" in Tora Bora may have been a mistake and it may not have been as there was no way we could simply storm that area by force.

Were there mistakes made in Iraq, undoubtably, but please name a war where there were no mistakes made. Using your definition of success, we should have surrendered in WWII in 1942.

[Stoner]

Originally Posted by bill.aam

What left wing blog/web site/editorial page did you read that on?

Not the neocon/fascist one you use

[Stoner]

Originally Posted by TooBad

Stoner, there is alot about you that I like. But your insistence on denying that there were WMD is insane and getting tiresome. Everybody, and I mean everybody knew that he had WMDs and had used them. Some, over 500 shells have been found (that they were old is on no consequence to the arguement, they existed and weren't supposed to!), and there are many credible reports that many of Saddam's WMDs were shipped off to Syria prior to our invasion.

I respectfully disagree that Iraq was or is a diversion from getting the job done in Afghanistan. Afghanistan is a very difficult country to accomplish much militarilly, just ask the Soviets, and the way we beat the Taliban was with very few special forces and much aid from the locals. That they allowed the locals to perform most of the "hunting" in Tora Bora may have been a mistake and it may not have been as there was no way we could simply storm that area by force.

Were there mistakes made in Iraq, undoubtably, but please name a war where there were no mistakes made. Using your definition of success, we should have surrendered in WWII in 1942.

History has proven your position incorrect and your BS remark at the end is typical of the disingenuous attitude that will likely put a leftist administration in power.
You are so polarized and assured of your insane radicalism, reality is invisible to you.
The neocon faction of the Bush administration started events they could not control and now small minded people blame everyone but themselves for their own actions.

There were no WMD in Iraq as claimed by the Bush administration.
There have been no credible reports as you claim of WMD being moved.....only speculation by discredited observers.
Saddam had no agreements with al Qaeda concerning attacks on the US.
That has been shown repeatedly.

Your 'man' screwed up and it appears his actions are the cause for al Qaeda successfully becoming an even greater power than before invading Iraq.

Your attitudes put the US at greater risk and you don't have the honesty to admit it.
Your attitude and Bush's lies and stupidity hurt US security and has let the world suffer and bleed just that much more.

Using your definition of success, we should have surrendered in WWII in 1942.

BS like this is what got Mulder in trouble.
Referencing remarks that were never posted.
Bandit had a name for that.................seems to fit you pretty well.