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04-Nov-2009, 07:39 AM
#2656 | Yes it was a good night for those against Obama and the Democrat policies. Virginia sent a message although I am sure Pelosi, Reid and Obama will say it was just local. You don't don't bounce out the democrats from long held top 3 positions without good cause. This is pretty amazing given the fact the republican party still is rudderless without much direction and certainly without any charismatic leadership. | | Distinguished Member with 66,600 posts. | | Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: California Experience: Intermediate |
04-Nov-2009, 11:45 AM
#2657 | Quote:
Originally Posted by ekim68 Alright, now it's time for Republicans to govern...  How's it going so far? Now, the hard part: Continuing to straddle the center and the right
With his overwhelming victory, Robert F. McDonnell is being extolled as a new model for Republican success: a traditionally conservative candidate who won a swing state by focusing almost exclusively on jobs, transportation and other kitchen table issues. The test now is whether he can build a similar model for governing by catering to the middle's pragmatism without alienating the GOP activists who were crucial to his win. http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn...l?hpid=topnews | This will be interesting to observe. Good luck Mr McDonnell. | | Community Moderator with 25,730 posts. | | Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Eugene, Oregon Experience: Still kickin' |
05-Nov-2009, 12:01 AM
#2658 | The GOP should dump the neocons Limited-government conservatives have been undermined by big-government neoconservatives.
The founders envisioned a federal government constitutionally limited to defending our rights to life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness. For that to happen, we must have at least one political party that strongly advocates limiting the power of government. For much of the 19th century, that party was the Democrats. For the early part of the 20th century and from the early 1960s through 1988, that party was the Republicans.
Today, it is difficult to find noninterventionists in either party.
The Democrats demonstrate a disdain for capitalism, free trade and the validity of contracts. They cheer the restriction of certain types of speech on campus and in federal law, and think nation-building is our moral obligation, even when there is no discernible U.S. interest involved. Lately, the Democrats have been popularly associated with principled opposition to waging war in far-flung corners of the globe. But evidence on the ground today tells a somewhat different tale.
As for the GOP, it has outwardly abandoned the limited-government principles of Barry Goldwater and Ronald Reagan. Little other evidence is needed than the Medicare prescription drug benefit -- with its $13-trillion unfunded liability -- passed with a strong-arm campaign by the Bush White House and a Republican congressional majority.
What happened to the Republicans? Well, the two Bush presidencies didn't help. Neither did the supply-side movement, focused on tax cuts and economic growth. Supporters of those ideas didn't talk about spending cuts, much less the proper role of government. They had the effect of replacing "liberty" as the motivating force behind the GOP with "growth," a somewhat less-inspiring ideal. But perhaps most pernicious has been the role played by the neoconservatives. More | | Community Moderator with 25,730 posts. | | Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Eugene, Oregon Experience: Still kickin' |
05-Nov-2009, 12:42 AM
#2659 | Oh, those wackos....
Last fall, GOP Rep. Mark Kirk wasn't sure that Sarah Palin had the proper qualifications to serve as vice president. But apparently he thinks she has what it takes to help him wrap up his U.S. Senate primary bid. More | | Community Moderator with 25,730 posts. | | Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Eugene, Oregon Experience: Still kickin' |
05-Nov-2009, 12:46 AM
#2660 | Good grief, a bunch of Rep news today... As GOP Holds Up Unemployment Extension, Nearly 200,000 Lose Their Benefits
In the world outside the Senate, time is money; inside it, time is everything. Senate Republicans are taking full advantage of that reality, using every parliamentary device at their disposal to slow down an extension of unemployment insurance benefits -- even after Democrats added billions for big business to sweeten the pot.
The saga is a cast study both in the difficulty of passing even popular legislation in the Senate and the lengths to which the GOP is going to slow down the process. More | | Distinguished Member with 24,717 posts. | | Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: You will never know Experience: Depends on the definition |
05-Nov-2009, 07:57 AM
#2661 | Quote:
Originally Posted by ekim68 Good grief, a bunch of Rep news today... As GOP Holds Up Unemployment Extension, Nearly 200,000 Lose Their Benefits
In the world outside the Senate, time is money; inside it, time is everything. Senate Republicans are taking full advantage of that reality, using every parliamentary device at their disposal to slow down an extension of unemployment insurance benefits -- even after Democrats added billions for big business to sweeten the pot.
The saga is a cast study both in the difficulty of passing even popular legislation in the Senate and the lengths to which the GOP is going to slow down the process. More | Where do you find this drivel. The senate passed it 98-0
The left now is reduced to claiming 2 votes can hold up legislation??
Yeah I did not read the article. Why should I when it is not even close to accurate.
Only one vote left and that is from the Anointed One so no need for the left to get their knickers in a bunch. I am sure Obama will sign it.
Next up is 5 paid days off for Swine flu. Good lord why do we even bother going to work and making money. The feds want everything given away so why try to further oneself. That would hurt small business which would probably be exempt. I say go for it though. Why not just have everybody take every 3rd year off while we are at it. or better yet maybe days off for hangnails. or days off for petting the family dog when it has a nervous disorder
Good grief is there no end in the give aways. This country has been ruined by greed and this crap further fuels it. Somebody has to pay for that crap and only the right seems to understand it never comes for free | | Distinguished Member with 66,600 posts. | | Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: California Experience: Intermediate |
05-Nov-2009, 12:08 PM
#2662 | Quote:
Originally Posted by ekim68 Good grief, a bunch of Rep news today... As GOP Holds Up Unemployment Extension, Nearly 200,000 Lose Their Benefits
In the world outside the Senate, time is money; inside it, time is everything. Senate Republicans are taking full advantage of that reality, using every parliamentary device at their disposal to slow down an extension of unemployment insurance benefits -- even after Democrats added billions for big business to sweeten the pot.
The saga is a cast study both in the difficulty of passing even popular legislation in the Senate and the lengths to which the GOP is going to slow down the process. More | They lost on this one. They could care less as long as their guts are full. | | Distinguished Member with 66,600 posts. | | Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: California Experience: Intermediate |
06-Nov-2009, 11:39 AM
#2663 | DEEP BACKGROUND
David CornColumnist Is the Tea Party Gang Turning GOP Into a Party of Hate? Sure sounds like it!
Posted: 11/6/09 When John Boehner, the Republican leader of the House, appeared at the Tea Party rally at the Capitol on Thursday afternoon, it was a dramatic signal: The wing-nuts have taken over the GOP.
Think I'm being harsh? The angry folks at the protest -- which attracted several thousand conservatives -- held up signs with messages of hate: "Get the Red Out of the White House," "Waterboard Congress," "Ken-ya Trust Obama?" One called the president a "Traitor to the U.S. Constitution." Another sign showed pictures of dead bodies at the Dachau concentration camp and compared health care reform to the Holocaust. A different placard depicted Obama as Sambo. Yes, Sambo. Another read, "Obama takes his orders from the Rothchilds" -- a reference to the anti-Semitic conspiracy theory holding that one evil Jewish family has manipulated events around the globe for decades.
All of this extremism was on display -- proudly -- at an event that was officially sponsored by the House Republicans. After Rep. Michele Bachmann (R-Minn.) invited tea partiers to the Capitol to rail against the emerging health care bill, the GOP leadership -- somewhat blindsided by Bachmann -- jumped on board, providing speakers and logistical support for the event. Certainly, the crowd was not made up entirely of bigots; I'm not smearing all the protesters who oppose Obama's health care reform effort. But it cannot be denied: Racism and anti-Semitism were part of an official Republican action. http://www.politicsdaily.com/2009/11/06/i/ | | Community Moderator with 50,226 posts. | | Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Central USA Experience: Need no stinking badges |
06-Nov-2009, 01:00 PM
#2664 | Signs with messages of hate?
Puleeze.
The only wackos I have seen at the TEA party rallies are the insane leftists.
It is not "hate" to display a sign critical of this President's SOCIALIST policies. | | Distinguished Member with 66,600 posts. | | Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: California Experience: Intermediate |
06-Nov-2009, 11:05 PM
#2665 | Sam Stein
Huffpost - Cantor Pushes Back Against Limbaugh, Hitler-Obama Analogies He attended Thursdays Tea Party.
First Posted: 11- 6-09 04:59 PM | Updated: 11- 6-09 05:15 PM Quote: | House Minority Whip Eric Cantor (R-Va.) criticized conservative talk show host Rush Limbaugh, on Friday, for drawing comparisons between President Obama and Adolph Hitler. And, in a sequence that seems rare in modern Republican politics, the Virginia Republican seems eager to publicize his rebuke. | Quote: |
Speaking out against the Hitler comparisons -- even when they are made by conservative voices -- would seem like an utterly non-controversial posture for a Republican leader (and a Jewish one at that) to make. But Cantor and his colleagues in the House have, to this point, walked a fine line in rebuking Rush -- fretting about the pushback they might receive from his listeners. The Congressman is the lone Jewish Republican in the House. And aides stress that he has consistently lamented any use of Hitler or Nazism to make a political point.
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07-Nov-2009, 12:00 AM
#2666 | You know, if this were in a time of war, which it is, isn't someone who is critical of our government, like Rush, guilty of treason? | | Distinguished Member with 24,717 posts. | | Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: You will never know Experience: Depends on the definition |
07-Nov-2009, 08:42 AM
#2667 | Quote:
Originally Posted by ekim68 You know, if this were in a time of war, which it is, isn't someone who is critical of our government, like Rush, guilty of treason? | You mean like the way most of the liberals in congress acted during most of Bush's term.
Did you say the same of those protesters? Pelosi famously stated it was patriotic speak out.
I guess free speech only applies as long as it is in support of your point of view. Here is a tip. That is one reason they got rid of the fairness doctrine. Because it was not fair.
By the way what exactly did Limbaugh state? Nothing in that article I saw that quoted him. Just comments about signs at the Tea Parties. I guess the democrats never have any kooks at their get togethers. Bound to be a few in the crowd. Oh I forgot the dems are angels and perfect | | Distinguished Member with 66,600 posts. | | Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: California Experience: Intermediate |
07-Nov-2009, 11:29 AM
#2668 | Quote:
Originally Posted by ekim68 You know, if this were in a time of war, which it is, isn't someone who is critical of our government, like Rush, guilty of treason? | I think so!
I think he is unhappy with himself so he spews hatred toward others.
Misery loves company! | | Community Moderator with 25,730 posts. | | Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Eugene, Oregon Experience: Still kickin' |
07-Nov-2009, 09:40 PM
#2669 | Quote:
Originally Posted by wacor
That is one reason they got rid of the fairness doctrine. Because it was not fair.
| Well we disagree on that. I remember seeing Reagan on TV when he said "There's no reason for the Fairness Doctrine".....But, he forgot to explain why...And the media let him do it....They knew that their day had come... | | Distinguished Member with 66,600 posts. | | Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: California Experience: Intermediate |
07-Nov-2009, 10:27 PM
#2670 | November 7, 2009 Rep. quotes infant on House floor: 'Maddie wants patient choice' Drama, drama!
Posted: November 7th, 2009 07:25 PM ET
From CNN's Jeff Simon
Washington (CNN) – In the midst of a heated debate on health care legislation, Rep. John Shadegg, R-Arizona, brought the cute, bald 7-month-old daughter of his Chief of Staff to the floor and gently bounced her in his arms as he expressed his opposition to the Democratic health care reform bill. http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com...atient-choice/ | |
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