[Bush Lady]

A friend of ours was fixing a car in our garage on the weekend. Someone else came over with his son. The son had those little ear-phones in his ears and the ear-phones were attached to a little card, about the size of a credit card. The kids was sitting there playing some kind of game.

How things have gotten worse for our children. They don't want to exercise anymore.

We never had these games growing up. In the winter we made ourselves an ice rink so we could skate or play hockey. We had exercise.

From May 2003 Fit For Life

http://www.time.com/time/magazine/ar...0500-1,00.html

It's not just the American kids that are becoming obese. In Canada it is no better.

The problem is

excessive time spent at computers

[redivivus]

The problem is:

Christian morality adopted by society, essentially a mass of weak looking to destroy anything strong and healthy (greater than them, causing suffering). The goal of non-suffering is coming along well. Kids and adults alike have no purpose to life. Their lives are meaningless and they are restricted to being "moral" (weak, sick). They are forbidden to strive in any but a couple sick-promoting directions and taught not to. Is it any wonder that they are obese?

[Paquadez]

Shows you know nothing of Christianity.

It also shows you know nothing about the Protestant Ethic, which is agreed by most motivational psychiatrists as being the fulcrum point which provides the motivation for success in US society and commerce.

The fact of obesity (which is not new, BTW: it's been around in the US for at least 30 years! I couldn't believe that jeans were being made by tent manufacturers in my last sojourn in California in the mid-80s!), is mainly a result of the wrong foods, over-manufacturing of foodstock, the increasing "Couch Potato" mentality and putting it simply, physical laziness: far easier to ride in the auto than walk!

What I suspect you allude to Red, is the wave of PC attitudes which seek to elevate self-inflicted conditions to the same level as organic illness and bend over backwards to protect the result of stupidity from the natural reward of suffering.

Many of the Do-Gooder mentality tend to be aethiests and agnostics, BTW, or adopt some fringe New Wave and highly suspect association with Eastern mysticism.

[Gibble]

Bad parenting. It all comes down to the parents being too busy to feed there kids properly. It's far easier to give them some money for lunch than to make one. Far simpler to order pizza than make a healthy supper, etc, etc.

I had video games growing up, played them a lot, and I still sit at a computer for 10 hours a day...and I'm skinny. I eat a fairly balanced diet, which includes junk food...but I stay extremely active to balance that out.

[Paquadez]

And all the graft renovating ol's trucks helps!

How are you Gib?

How's the new biz progressing?

Good, I hope.

[Gibble]

I'm good Paq.

Busy, as always. Business is...good I guess, starting to pick up a little more. Though, I'm too busy to fully commit to it yet...don't want to work 20 hours a day

[bomb #21]

Originally Posted by Gibble

Bad parenting. It all comes down to the parents being too busy to feed there kids properly. It's far easier to give them some money for lunch than to make one. Far simpler to order pizza than make a healthy supper, etc, etc.

I had video games growing up, played them a lot, and I still sit at a computer for 10 hours a day...and I'm skinny. I eat a fairly balanced diet, which includes junk food...but I stay extremely active to balance that out.

Possibly in some cases. However, some kids can be computer addicts and junk food fanatics and not particularly athletic & still be skinny as hell. "Fat gene"?

[Gibble]

Originally Posted by bomb #21

Possibly in some cases. However, some kids can be computer addicts and junk food fanatics and not particularly athletic & still be skinny as hell. "Fat gene"?

"Not particularly athletic" is different than not active. Heck, in any given day, you can do a lot to increase activity and burn calories, without doing real exercise. Take the stairs instead of the elevator, for only a few flights, the stairs are faster anyhow! Park farther away from the store and walk, even if there's a closer spot, mow the lawn more frequently, shovel the driveway instead of using a snowblower (ok, that requires snow... ), heck, even standing when you have a conversation instead of sitting is more active! Walk and run with your dog if you have one, even in the winter, rather than holding the leash outside the window...I hate it when I see people do that...how lazy can you be? Yeah, we have many conveniences that we can use to make our lives easier, and there's times you should take the elevator over the stairs, and take the easier way, but not always...

[redivivus]

Originally Posted by Paquadez

Shows you know nothing of Christianity.

Originally Posted by Paquadez

It also shows you know nothing about the Protestant Ethic, which is agreed by most motivational psychiatrists as being the fulcrum point which provides the motivation for success in US society and commerce.

I don't care what motivational psychiatrists agree on.

Originally Posted by Paquadez

The fact of obesity (which is not new, BTW: it's been around in the US for at least 30 years! I couldn't believe that jeans were being made by tent manufacturers in my last sojourn in California in the mid-80s!), is mainly a result of the wrong foods, over-manufacturing of foodstock, the increasing "Couch Potato" mentality and putting it simply, physical laziness: far easier to ride in the auto than walk!

This wouldn't be if life wasn't so laid back, meaningless, lacking in suffering, etc. Imagine your village was in constant war with the neighboring villages. If you sat around getting fat you wouldn't last too long, either your people or the enemies would kill you (and be disgusted with you).

Originally Posted by Paquadez

What I suspect you allude to Red, is the wave of PC attitudes which seek to elevate self-inflicted conditions to the same level as organic illness and bend over backwards to protect the result of stupidity from the natural reward of suffering.

I'm not talking about politics, it is so trivial.

[Gibble]

Originally Posted by redivivus

Imagine your village was in constant war with the neighboring villages. If you sat around getting fat you wouldn't last too long, either your people or the enemies would kill you (and be disgusted with you).

I'm not talking about politics, it is so trivial.

To be honest, I'd rather be fat, than living in a constant state of war...

[redivivus]

Originally Posted by Gibble

To be honest, I'd rather be fat, than living in a constant state of war...

Scared? Not physically capable? Too weak for war? Then let us drag down everyone else to your level....!

[bomb #21]

Originally Posted by Gibble

"Not particularly athletic" is different than not active ...

OK, I'll be a bit more blatant. I was a desk jockey for 20+ years, didn't do any sports, ate whatever I liked (and I love cake ) and I put on practically no weight. Annoyed the hell out of Mrs Bomb.

I was just throwing the "fat gene" ?theory? into the equation, basically. Something about having a low/high "metabolic rate" rings a bell also.

EDIT: http://www.weightlossresources.co.uk...e_calories.htm

[Gibble]

Originally Posted by redivivus

Scared? Not physically capable? Too weak for war? Then let us drag down everyone else to your level....!

What? I'm referring to civilized behavior.

[LANMaster]

Fat kids - Parents responsibility. NOT THE GOVERNMENT'S BUSINESS!

[cherry pie]

A few weeks back I was watching a show on TV and they were talking about how food servings have changed withing the past 20 years. Check out this presentation which shows the difference "never mind the pictures but rather check the nutrition facts" And if you think about it, 5 years ago even a cup of coffee looked much different than a cup of coffee today

http://hp2010.nhlbihin.net/oei_ss/menu.htm#sl2

We feed our kid a (muffin) but it's really a (whole cake) in the old scale!! I really don't think all our parents and grand parents used to go to gyms 5 days a week...

Not to mention all types of tempting yummy stuff on the supermarket shelves.

People with high metabolism and no fat genes... they exist... I envy those... wish I was one of them