[SexyTech]

How can that raving lunatick female senator from California lay blame for the wildfires on the freakin IRAQ War?????

To say that the war in Iraq tied up Natinal Guard Resources and equipment needed to fight the wild fires in California is a total joke! Has she officially lost it???

California currently has 2000 National Guard troups in Iraq, leaving 17,000 still at home.

The National Guard is not mobilized except by the Governor. which there are currently 2000 called up.

The firestorms hit so rapidly due to drought conditions, low humidity, and high winds, nobody could have predicted it. the firestorms travel so fast, it's lucky that only one person has died as a direct result of the fires. Most of the injuries are to firefighters having to deal with the strrong winds and unpredictability of wildfire.

The Liberals seem to want to turn the San Diego fires into another Katrina...But that won't happen. The people of San Diego are very resilliant. While they may be down, they are certainly not out! Qualcomm Stadium evac center is a prime example of that. There's no rape or murder, there's support, donations, and goodwill.

There was even a concert going on for the fire victims still under evacuation. Everyone is in good spirits, the city and county governments are there, working with the affected people, and volunteers are actually being turned away as there's more than needed.

Anywone who tries to make this into an excuse to get out of Iraq needfs to be shot!

Lt. Governor John Garamendi(Dem) was quoted as saying the Presedent's visit on Thursday will be a distraction and he will get in the way of fire operations. That's a joke. President Bush needs to see the devistation as he did in 2003 to make sure the appropriate resources get allocated to relieve the disaster victims and help the community.

The US Navy and Marine Corps wanted to get into the firefight with aerial water drops and such, bt "CAL Fire" was preventing it because of civilian contracts. It took the 3 San Diego Congressmen to have a "Closed Door Meeting" with the head of CAL Fire to get the Navy/Marines involved with Hilos and tankers, and they are more qualified to fly in high winds than the CAL Fire pilots!

When will the freakin Dems learn to not screw in Disaster situations?????


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[ChrisJones]

Any links to a story where she blames Iraq???

[linskyjack]

She didn't blame Iraq for the fires. She said that they could have been fought more efficiently
if there weren't troops in California. She happens to be wrong but the long-winded talk radio diatribe of the poster is just as crazy.

[wacor]

Originally Posted by linskyjack

She didn't blame Iraq for the fires. She said that they could have been fought more efficiently
if there weren't troops in California. She happens to be wrong but the long-winded talk radio diatribe of the poster is just as crazy.

I heard the national guard was on alert and one of the services had ordered planes from around the country to get there. these were large planes with the capability to drop chemicals to control the fires. the planes are on the ground in the area waiting to be used.

who is responsible for keeping them grounded?

and how long is it before the libs will say that the lily white rich suburbans got better treatment then the poor in New Orleans? You know that is gonna happen. And of course those idiots will not admit that Katrina was far more devastating in the size and numbers affected.

these Dems have no shame. and that is proven by the Lt. Gov saying Bush would be a distraction. What an idiotic statement. You want to bet he would be the first to scream that Bush does not care if Busy stayed away?

Freaking dumb arse hypocrite Demokrats.

[iltos]

once again, a natural disaster becomes a political football

did any of these politicos read their own favorite newspaper?
do they even bother to read anymore?


.....fire captains were, in some cases, telling their crews to stand down and pick their battles.....there's no way to control a fire whipped by 60-100mph winds....

puttin more people on the ground -in harm's way- isn't gonna save anymore houses, make the winds die down

!!!!

say now...THERE'S an idea.....let the politicians stand on the fireline and discuss this with the flames.....all that hot air might serve as some kind of backfire and help settle things a bit

short of that.....it is what it is....unfortunate, devasting for many, but just the real world (always a tough thing when your political career needs bolstering)

[sy2]

Originally Posted by wacor

I heard the national guard was on alert and one of the services had ordered planes from around the country to get there. these were large planes with the capability to drop chemicals to control the fires. the planes are on the ground in the area waiting to be used.

who is responsible for keeping them grounded?

The Santa Ana winds. Very dangerous to try and take off with 90+ MPH wind shears.

[WarC]

The Lieutenant Governor of California and Barbara Boxer have both stated that "half the equipment" of the California national guard is in Iraq, and because of that, the fires are out of control...It's prime BS.

And heres a gem of a quote from Harry Reid: "One reason why we have the fires in California is global warming"...

The media is picking it up and running with it too, I have seen interviews with fire personnel there and these interviewers are trying their damndest to produce good anti-administration soundbites, pushing the "there isnt enough equipment because of iraq" line at them, which they themselves refute.

?Evidently they have a lot of forest fires in Baghdad?

An Interview from CBS Morning News:

STORM(liberal mediot interviewer): Well, as we've heard, the Chief Chip Prather of the Orange County Fire Authority said it's an absolute fact that if we had more air resources we would've been able to control this fire. Why weren't those resources available?

PAULISON(FEMA Administrator): There is quite a bit of resources on the ground right now. Part of the issue is the winds. The airplanes can fly in the winds, but when they disperse the fire retardant and the water, it dissipates so quickly that it doesn't, it's not effective. We have quite a few air tankers on the ground. There's six more coming in from the National Guard from Northcom. So, we feel like we have a lot of air resources on the ground right now. And hopefully, if this wind will die down this afternoon, we can get those in the air and get these fires under control.

STORM: But he's actually saying that there were resources that were not made available to them in quick enough time. What's your response to that?

PAULISON: Well, I'm not aware of that, obviously, but, you know, California has the best wildland firefighters actually in the world. And they know what they're doing. They will get a handle on this fire. It's just a matter of dealing with the weather right now. The winds are horrendous. The humidity is down in single digits in some cases, and we just need a break with the weather and we can get all the air tankers that are actually on the ground right now, up in the air and get this fire under control.

[sy2]

Ahh - didn't even think of the fact that the water/fire retardant would be virtually ineffective because of the wind. I figured it was just too dangerous to take off.

Either way, those Santa Ana winds are what's making this thing so dangerous. Sometimes they come and are gone in a few hours or a day, other times they last 4-5 days. There's no telling, and those winds sure make things a heckuva lot more dangerous.

[TooBad]

Lost it THIS time??? They never "had" it. It is simply typical of the looney left to spout off at the mouth without a single clue as to what is going on, what the facts are or anything else. Just blame the mean old conservatives and Bush (who is not a conservative!). What else is new??

[sy2]

Both sides are pushing it here. Fox News trying to establish some link between the arson and Al-Qaeda is just as ridiculous at this point as the Dems trying to blame things on Iraq.

There's enough loony-ism to go around, no need to worry about that.

[wacor]

Originally Posted by sy2

Both sides are pushing it here. Fox News trying to establish some link between the arson and Al-Qaeda is just as ridiculous at this point as the Dems trying to blame things on Iraq.

There's enough loony-ism to go around, no need to worry about that.

Saw the same thing on Glen Beck last night.

all because of some memo they dug up from 2003



It is not this kind of stuff that concerns me. I would be more worried about an attack on our water supplies. For less than $200 in equipment they could go into any house and pump chemicals back into water mains and by the time the authorities tracked it down the perpetrators would be long gone. Choose the right chemical and you could easily kill entire neighborhoods.

[LANMaster]

Hey Ben .... How come you only come around TSG when Southern Califoria is on fire?


Seriously, though, I hope you're not in the path of any of this stuff this time around.

May all of your firefighters make it home safe and sound.

[SexyTech]

Originally Posted by LANMaster

Hey Ben .... How come you only come around TSG when Southern Califoria is on fire?


Seriously, though, I hope you're not in the path of any of this stuff this time around.

May all of your firefighters make it home safe and sound.

Hey Dude! How's it hangin!

I'm actually living in Kentucky now and my parents and friends are all safe. I have many friends that got evacuated but so far, nobody has lost homes.

As to the comments about Al Qaeda, there was thoughts that some of the 2003 fires may have been started by them.

Over 5000,000 people evacuated and thousands of homes destroyed...yeah, that would be considered terrorism.


but it's hard to tell what the arsonists motives are for the fires that were arson.

[wacor]

I heard that they utilized a Reverse 911 system to notify people to evacuate.

People got calls on home, business and cell phones to warn them.

It may not be perfect but it should be something mandated everywhere that we pay for 911 service. Which i doubt it is.

[sglv]

This is typical of liberals. It really isn't about facts, it's about blame. Blame somebody, anybody, just not our own. And certainly don't blame mother nature. This is a horrible thing that happened (and Katrina was horrible too), there was no stopping what happened when you add the Santa Ana's. I can remember when the hills were falling in the 70's because of so much rain. There is no stopping nature or the weather and all you can do is hope for the best.

I had dinner with a friend from Laguna tonight and he is very thankful the fires didn't come close, he's had closer encounters over the years. It's a crap shoot. The arsonists are what had him the angriest. You can accept nature, but intentional, deliberate, and malicious acts are incomprehensible.