[wacor]

We need an alternative to the bozo's running / ruining our lives who sit on their thrones in Washington.

How about the Dems and Reps here defend themselves and tell us what they like about their parties.

I was taking a look around at the Party Platforms. Unfortunately if I am correct the Dems and Reps appear to not have a platform which they stand by but rather ones that are created or amended at each presidential election.

I found it interesting how their platform compares to the Libertarian Platform.

Both the Dems and Reps platforms are full of puffery based on reacting to current events in more specifics. The Libertarian platform seems to address things more in general.

Anyway it got me to thinking that this is a real clear example of how our government works. The two parties in power have platforms consisting of 39 (Reps) and 92 (Dems) pages to explain their stances. The Libertarians do it on 1 Web Page which probably equals maybe 2-3 actual pages.

The Dems and the Reps run our government the same way they conjure up and present their platforms. Over bloated BS.

Here are the links for anybody interested in comparing.

Dems……….. http://www.democrats.org/pdfs/2004platform.pdf

Reps……….. http://www.gop.com/media/2004platform.pdf

Libertarian.. http://www.lp.org/issues/platform_all.shtml

[pyritechips]

LOL dude! One post at a time eh? Or is there one for dems, one for reps and one for others?



(yeah, I know: YSG had a brain fart. I had to delete some dupes myself!)

[wacor]

Originally Posted by pyritechips

LOL dude! One post at a time eh? Or is there one for dems, one for reps and one for others?



(yeah, I know: YSG had a brain fart. I had to delete some dupes myself!)

I caught that but changed it.

kind of hard to edit stuff tonite with the maint. on the website.

[pyritechips]

It's cool dude. But I'd rather be neither. There must be more choices in this wide wide world. I'd rather be a sea otter.

[wacor]

If the current congress was to write the Constitution it would be bigger than the bible.

And just as confusing and open to various interpretations. You know, kind of like our tax code.

[valis]

fun little test.....

http://www.okcupid.com/politics

[wacor]

Originally Posted by valis

fun little test.....

http://www.okcupid.com/politics

Me....

Your true political self:
You are a

Social Liberal
(66% permissive)

and an...

Economic Conservative
(66% permissive)

You are best described as a:

Libertarian (66e/66s)


You exhibit a very well-developed sense of Right and Wrong and believe in economic fairness.

[pyritechips]

A person has the right to claim the Holocaust never happened, if that's what he believes.

I have a problem with the above. It boils down to a Freedom of Speech question. Should a person be allowed to make any claim, no matter how wrong it is?

Practical considerations aside, a person who doesn't use many government services should pay less in taxes.

This is bebatable. What about roads? My taxes to towards building road but what if I don't use them? I don't think we can pick and choose what public services we want our taxes to pay for.

[wacor]

Originally Posted by pyritechips

I have a problem with the above. It boils down to a Freedom of Speech question. Should a person be allowed to make any claim, no matter how wrong it is?



This is bebatable. What about roads? My taxes to towards building road but what if I don't use them? I don't think we can pick and choose what public services we want our taxes to pay for.

I strongly agreed on the first one. If somebody has an opinion they have the right to it I suppose even if it is ludicrous.

The 2nd one i agreed with. i think we need to move more towards user fees. trouble is we are shifting towards that but still maintaining the high tax rates.

so what did you end up coming out as Pyrite??

[sweets1981]

Here's how I did...

Your true political self:
You are a

Social Moderate
(55% permissive)


and an...

Economic Liberal
(15% permissive)


You are best described as a:


Socialist (15e/55s)


You exhibit a very well-developed sense of Right and Wrong and believe in economic fairness.

[pyritechips]

I am a card carrying, flaming, dyed-in-the-wool candy-assed socialist wuss that supports welfare and think that anybody with more than a thousand dollars of net worth should be taxed within an inch of their lives!

"WORKERS OF THE WORLD UNITE!"

[valis]

Originally Posted by wacor

I strongly agreed on the first one. If somebody has an opinion they have the right to it I suppose even if it is ludicrous.

yeah, but at what point in time does one cross from freedom of speech into the Bellisle Asylum? Claiming that the Apollo landings never existed is not only incorrect, it is a sign of some other, more significant mental issues that need to be dealt with. Ditto with the holocaust.

[pyritechips]

Claiming that the Apollo landings never existed is not only incorrect, it is a sign of some other, more significant mental issues that need to be dealt with.

You mean they really did land on the moom?

[valis]

moon, too.

[pyritechips]

Originally Posted by valis

moon, too.

My God, they're everywhere!

But seriously: isn't freedom of speech limited to the point where the spoken or written word can do undue harm to a person, culture, race, cause, etc.?

Can I say that the lead singer of ACDC (I don't know his name and don't care) is a friggen screaming idiot and shouldn't be allowed near a microphone without harming his or the band's reputation or thier ability to make a living or live a healthy and happy life? It's one of those delightful grey areas where it's hard to see there the line is drawn.