[wacor]

I had not given it much thought but then yesterday on sports talk radio the host was commenting about how the Commissioner of the NFL was thus far treating the Vick stuff different from the Reid stuff.

I really did not give it much thought but then he made the point that the judge in the case of Reids sons stated that the Reid household was a drug emporium.


when Vick got in trouble the Commish said people in the NFL are responsible for what happens in their house. and used that as one of the reasons to suspend Vick.

So based on that should Reid be held to the same standards??

On the one hand the stuff going on at Vicks place would be out in the open or overt. Where as I can see the stuff going on at Reids house would be more hidden or covert.

Which kind of raises the question also of what level of secrecy should be expected by a person in their 20's who live with their parents. These sons of Reid have a pretty bad track record of drug issues. If they are living at home do the parents have not a right but a duty to snoop on the sons to see if they are clean??


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[LauraMJ]

My house.............I have a right to look at whatever is in it, in whatever room it is in. Just because my kids are USING that room, does not mean I no longer own it. .. If my 20 year old son did not like that, then he could go get his OWN house.

I respect my kids' privacy right up until I have reason not to. If I haver reason not to trust them, then IMO, I have the right to see what is going on in MY OWN house. If my name is on the mortgage, then what goes on in my house is MY responsibility and MY concern.

I a person in their 20's wants more secure privacy, then they need to get their own house and mortgage.

[Littlefield]

I agree Reid is responsible for what goes on in his house and it is a double standard if the Commish does not act accordingly .
Hell, Bill Belichick got fined 500,000 for using a camera and the Commish will not do anything to Reid for letting his house be a drug den . Will be interesting to see how he is held accountable.

[TooBad]

Originally Posted by Littlefield

I agree Reid is responsible for what goes on in his house and it is a double standard if the Commish does not act accordingly .
Hell, Bill Belichick got fined 500,000 for using a camera and the Commish will not do anything to Reid for letting his house be a drug den . Will be interesting to see how he is held accountable.

Except for a judge making an outlandish statement, the law does not seem to think that Andy Reid is responsible for his adult children's acts. Vick is directly responsible as he provided financial support and knew what was going on. Love is blind and with detached 20/20 hindsight it is easy for us to sit in judgement of what he should have known and/or done about it. Having had a crazy brother that did many of the things the Reid kids did and knowing what it did to my parents without their ever knowing all that went on, my sympathy is with Andy Reid to find a way to heal his family and get past this without more being heaped on by those that think they know everything, when in truth, they know next to nothing.

[Littlefield]

It does not matter it was in his house so he has to be held accountable.

[DiSaidSo]

Originally Posted by Littlefield

It does not matter it was in his house so he has to be held accountable.

No, his grown sons are to be held accountable. I believe I do agree with Howie Long when he said last Sunday that the only reason you keep your adult children living at home with you (at least in this country).... is to save their lives.

I hate the Eagles, I wish all kinds of negative stuff on them.... but this is just a really sad story. I don't think they should suspend Andy Reid. No charges have been brought against him. Lots and lots and lots of charges have been brought against Michael Vick. Not even close to the same situation.

[Littlefield]

Being accountable to the NFL is a lot different then being held criminally under the law. If he was living there when the action was taking place the NFL could fine him or something .I never said suspend but it will be interesting to see how the unfortunate situation plays out.

[clhcpa]

Michael Vick blatantly broke the law, and has been treated appropriately IMO.

Andy Reid did not break the law. His adult sons did. He has not been charged with a crime. Why should he be suspended because his sons are idiots? If all employers were to suspend their employees for having idiot children, I suspect a good many of us would be without jobs (me included )

I've read where some sports "journalists" think there is a double standard for players vs. coaches, and if Andy Reid were a player he would be suspended. I don't think this is true. I think comparing Mike Vick and Andy Reid is like talking apples and oranges. Mike Vick participated in the criminal actions, Andy Reid did not.

As for what amount of privacy an adult child should expect while living in your home, I say none. The key word is expect. I would not automatically presume to go around snooping after my adult kid if I didn't have reason to. But, if there was anything that made me think he/she was up to something, I would have no problem searching (especially with the stuff he ended up pulling before he turned 18).

Fortunately, I'm 1400 miles away, so I don't have that issue.

[Littlefield]

He probably will not be fined because the actions do not constitute a violation of the NFL's personal conduct policy.
According to the personal conduct policy, if an NFL player had children in legal trouble under identical circumstances, the player also would not be in violation of the policy.
What if it could be proved that he was aware of the actions and was present when they were taking place under the house he has title to then could the NFL hold him to a personal standard because Goodell has imposed tougher standards for the NFL to uphold .
Pretty sad he did not know about the guns and drugs in his own home.
He had to take 5 weeks off so Philadelphia might still say the situation is disrupting his ablity to coach and have him resign.

[wacor]

I see two issues here.

First the Commissioner stated one was responsible for what happens at ones home. He did not qualify that. He can dance around it all he likes his message was clear.

Second, it is irresponsible and inconceivable that a parent who had sons with a track record of issues like this would not be more vigilant to see what is going on in his own home. For a judge to declare it a drug emporium says a lot. Even for some judges that like to grandstand.

I feel bad for Reid. I would not wish this on any parent. But he dropped the ball on this one. I think the NFL must do something or it is being hypocritical.

[trekguy]

Originally Posted by Littlefield

It does not matter it was in his house so he has to be held accountable.

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,307483,00.html

The police did NOT find any drugs in the house. The judge made a stupid comment, and now it seems that some people are just stirring the race pot.

Comparing Michael Vick to Andy Reid is ridiculous.

[katonca]

Originally Posted by clhcpa

Michael Vick blatantly broke the law, and has been treated appropriately IMO.

Andy Reid did not break the law. His adult sons did. He has not been charged with a crime. Why should he be suspended because his sons are idiots? If all employers were to suspend their employees for having idiot children, I suspect a good many of us would be without jobs (me included )

I've read where some sports "journalists" think there is a double standard for players vs. coaches, and if Andy Reid were a player he would be suspended. I don't think this is true. I think comparing Mike Vick and Andy Reid is like talking apples and oranges. Mike Vick participated in the criminal actions, Andy Reid did not.

As for what amount of privacy an adult child should expect while living in your home, I say none. The key word is expect. I would not automatically presume to go around snooping after my adult kid if I didn't have reason to. But, if there was anything that made me think he/she was up to something, I would have no problem searching (especially with the stuff he ended up pulling before he turned 18).

Fortunately, I'm 1400 miles away, so I don't have that issue.

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[wacor]

Originally Posted by trekguy

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,307483,00.html

The police did NOT find any drugs in the house. The judge made a stupid comment, and now it seems that some people are just stirring the race pot.

Comparing Michael Vick to Andy Reid is ridiculous.

Interesting.

Yes it would appear the judges comments were taken out of context and the press ran with it.

It does change things if no drugs were found.

Wonder where the one son was stashing them though??

Maybe the parents were being vigilant and checking to make sure none were in the house.

[trekguy]

Originally Posted by wacor

Interesting.

Yes it would appear the judges comments were taken out of context and the press ran with it.

It does change things if no drugs were found.

Wonder where the one son was stashing them though??

Maybe the parents were being vigilant and checking to make sure none were in the house.

The article stated that drugs were found in both of the sons' vehicles. They're addicts... is it the parent's fault?? Maybe... I have no idea how their family life has gone. I do know that you can't live your children's lives for them. And, I have to believe that the Reid's were doing all they could... just by the fact that they were allowing them to still live at home. Honestly, if my kid's were doing AND SELLING drugs, I'm not so sure I would be that kind of parent.

[linskyjack]

This has to be one of the most ridiculous comparisons ever to appear on the pages of Tech Guy.