[plschwartz]

Bob Johnson is getting it from the PC crowd for suggesting that Obama's self-admitted drug use is a fair thing to discuss. Of course he got stoned this time, not Obama.
Weren't many of the same people insistent that Dubya's drug use be discussed.
Hmmm

[iltos]

Originally Posted by plschwartz

Bob Johnson is getting it from the PC crowd for suggesting that Obama's self-admitted drug use is a fair thing to discuss. Of course he got stoned this time, not Obama.
Weren't many of the same people insistent that Dubya's drug use be discussed.
Hmmm

personally, i have no problem with it being discussed....tho any politician probably cringes at the thought of its mention, as our puritanical roots are still somehow a factor in what we expect from the people we vote for.

the truth is that these folks are really pretty much like you and me in their private lives....diverse, right sometimes and wrong others......capable of doing heroic things (small or large) and making mistakes (small and large)

[trekguy]

Originally Posted by plschwartz

Bob Johnson is getting it from the PC crowd for suggesting that Obama's self-admitted drug use is a fair thing to discuss. Of course he got stoned this time, not Obama.
Weren't many of the same people insistent that Dubya's drug use be discussed.
Hmmm

Let's talk about it. You go first.

[Fidelista]

Originally Posted by plschwartz

Bob Johnson is getting it from the PC crowd for suggesting that Obama's self-admitted drug use is a fair thing to discuss. Of course he got stoned this time, not Obama.
Weren't many of the same people insistent that Dubya's drug use be discussed.
Hmmm

Obama's teenage experiments with drugs has been discussed , he admitted it , has written about it , was truthful about it , even admitted "inhaling" !
So....what is there to discuss ?
President Clinton tried it , but didn't inhale and Dubya ?????
Did he come clean with his supposed drug use , admit or explain to public ??--- that leaves much to discuss and wonder about .
At any rate , they all tried some drugs ,like me and most of my generation.
Obama hasn't tried to hide the facts ,has spoken openly, and I respect that .
If it becomes an issue , that is another subject , and its purpose will be obvious .
I believe honesty is the issue with most people , not whether youth tried some drug. >f

[bassetman]

Originally Posted by Fidelista

Obama's teenage experiments with drugs has been discussed , he admitted it , has written about it , was truthful about it , even admitted "inhaling" !
So....what is there to discuss ?
President Clinton tried it , but didn't inhale and Dubya ?????
Did he come clean with his supposed drug use , admit or explain to public ??--- that leaves much to discuss and wonder about .
At any rate , they all tried some drugs ,like me and most of my generation.
Obama hasn't tried to hide the facts ,has spoken openly, and I respect that .
If it becomes an issue , that is another subject , and its purpose will be obvious .
I believe honesty is the issue with most people , not whether youth tried some drug. >f

Bush is in denial, Obama isn't. There was a SC nominee who admitting trying weed, and got dropped, what a shame in this day and age!

[wacor]

His drug use should be a non issue. It was long ago in the past. But you can bet the Clinton machine is working overtime to dig up more about it. We have a nation of sheep that have bought into the big scam called the war on drugs. That might be one major issue that I would have justified Reagan not getting elected. His war on drugs has caused far more damage and cost far more than Bush's war in Iraq. If we had a more reasoned response back then instead of that idiotic "just say no" campaign and the AG commission we might be closer to dealing with this issue. That set us back years.

Some people do drugs. Some experiment in their youth and some continue on with an addiction. Unless somebody can point out a candidate had an uncontrollable addiction and still is a user then it should not mean a damn thing. But as long was we have our heads buried in sand about drugs and how to deal with them this will always be a subject that gets exploited.

Stoner has been kind of quiet where I have been posting. This should wake him up.

[poochee]

Bob Johnson's statement:

"As an African American, I am frankly insulted that the Obama campaign would imply that we are so stupid that we would think Hillary and Bill Clinton, who have been deeply and emotionally involved in black issues, when Barack Obama was doing something in the neighborhood that I won't say what he was doing but he said it in his book... When they have been involved, to say that these two people would denigrate the accomplishment of civil rights marchers, men and women who were hosed, beaten and bled, and some died... To say and to expect us now all of a sudden to say we are attacking a black man. That kind of campaign behavior does not resonate with me or a guy that says I want to be a reasonable, likeable Sidney Poitier 'Guess Who's Coming to Dinner.' And I'm thinking to myself, this ain't a movie, Sidney."
http://firstread.msnbc.msn.com/archi...13/574964.aspx

IMO, looking at his entire statement, it was important to the Clintons that he pointed out these pertinent facts about the Clintons.

[wacor]

Originally Posted by poochee

Bob Johnson's statement:

"As an African American, I am frankly insulted that the Obama campaign would imply that we are so stupid that we would think Hillary and Bill Clinton, who have been deeply and emotionally involved in black issues, when Barack Obama was doing something in the neighborhood that I won't say what he was doing but he said it in his book... When they have been involved, to say that these two people would denigrate the accomplishment of civil rights marchers, men and women who were hosed, beaten and bled, and some died... To say and to expect us now all of a sudden to say we are attacking a black man. That kind of campaign behavior does not resonate with me or a guy that says I want to be a reasonable, likeable Sidney Poitier 'Guess Who's Coming to Dinner.' And I'm thinking to myself, this ain't a movie, Sidney."
http://firstread.msnbc.msn.com/archi...13/574964.aspx

IMO, looking at his entire statement, it was important to the Clintons that he pointed out these pertinent facts about the Clintons.

Well you forgot to add this stab in the back. Now this is typical Clintonista speak.
And then he had the gall to say afterward that he was not referring to drug use.

As Billy Bob said famously last week....... "Give Me A Break"

He then added: “And to me, as an African-American, I am frankly insulted that the Obama campaign would imply that we are so stupid that we would think Hillary and Bill Clinton, who have been deeply and emotionally involved in black issues since Barack Obama was doing something in the neighborhood –* and I won’t say what he was doing, but he said it in the book –* when they have been involved.”

[iltos]

Originally Posted by poochee

Bob Johnson's statement:

"As an African American, I am frankly insulted that the Obama campaign would imply that we are so stupid that we would think Hillary and Bill Clinton, who have been deeply and emotionally involved in black issues, when Barack Obama was doing something in the neighborhood that I won't say what he was doing but he said it in his book... When they have been involved, to say that these two people would denigrate the accomplishment of civil rights marchers, men and women who were hosed, beaten and bled, and some died... To say and to expect us now all of a sudden to say we are attacking a black man. That kind of campaign behavior does not resonate with me or a guy that says I want to be a reasonable, likeable Sidney Poitier 'Guess Who's Coming to Dinner.' And I'm thinking to myself, this ain't a movie, Sidney."
http://firstread.msnbc.msn.com/archi...13/574964.aspx

IMO, looking at his entire statement, it was important to the Clintons that he pointed out these pertinent facts about the Clintons.

uh...yeah....politics
......and people think i write convoluted stuff .....in one statement, he managed to

-bring up the "experience" issue...by way of age, implying obama was just a kid when the clintons were working so hard for civil rights
-bring up the drug issue...that "of which we do not speak"
-make that clinton team seem tireless, timeless and one being with two faces (in case we've forgotten how much we loved it when bill was elected)
-suggest that obama may not be "black enough" to be president

and do all of it without really making a single point whatsoever

[wacor]

Originally Posted by iltos

uh...yeah....politics
......and people think i write convoluted stuff .....in one statement, he managed to

-bring up the "experience" issue...by way of age, implying obama was just a kid when the clintons were working so hard for civil rights
-bring up the drug issue...that "of which we do not speak"
-make that clinton team seem tireless, timeless and one being with two faces (in case we've forgotten how much we loved it when bill was elected)
-suggest that obama may not be "black enough" to be president

and do all of it without really making a single point whatsoever

Tis the Clintonista version of the politics of destruction.

[poochee]

Originally Posted by wacor

Well you forgot to add this stab in the back. Now this is typical Clintonista speak.
And then he had the gall to say afterward that he was not referring to drug use.

As Billy Bob said famously last week....... "Give Me A Break"

I was concentrating on the statement. Not the whole issue. Anyway, I am glad he pointed this out. I wouldn't want Hillary to lose votes over it.

[Broly]

If You all don't mind, I'm gonna put my 2 cents in the pot. I am an Obama supporter but I feel that this racial issue is a slippery slope for the Obamg campaign. Evidently Obama feels the same. This racial issue is ill advised as it will certainly alienate potential white voters. Obama has done well in this thing so far but to suggest that the Clintons are racist is political suicide. The problem is that this isn't coming from the Obama campaign. It's coming from civil rights leaders and black talk radio show hosts as well as the media as a whole. I feel that this will further divide the black vote. This also hurts the Clintons because it makes them seem like they are willing to use dirty win tactics. The whole thing just stinks to me, and I wish that these two would just get back to the issues and leave this "race" thing alone.

Broly Out

Obama in 08'

[poochee]

Originally Posted by Broly

If You all don't mind, I'm gonna put my 2 cents in the pot. I am an Obama supporter but I feel that this racial issue is a slippery slope for the Obamg campaign. Evidently Obama feels the same. This racial issue is ill advised as it will certainly alienate potential white voters. Obama has done well in this thing so far but to suggest that the Clintons are racist is political suicide. The problem is that this isn't coming from the Obama campaign. It's coming from civil rights leaders and black talk radio show hosts as well as the media as a whole. I feel that this will further divide the black vote. This also hurts the Clintons because it makes them seem like they are willing to use dirty win tactics. The whole thing just stinks to me, and I wish that these two would just get back to the issues and leave this "race" thing alone.

Broly Out

Obama in 08'

Yep, stick with the issues.

[Littlefield]

It hurts Obama more then the Clintons a lot more as he is forced to talk about race. It will get worse in SC with fringe groups watch out !

[poochee]

Originally Posted by Littlefield

It hurts Obama more then the Clintons a lot more as he is forced to talk about race. It will get worse in SC with fringe groups watch out !

Yep!