[anwthan-a]

...you have..

One True Voice on The Trail
by Chris Hedges.

I am tired of living in a country where 16 year-old girls die because insurance company profits are more important than human life.
I am tired of a government that runs off-shore penal colonies where the detained are tortured and denied the basic protection of the Geneva Convention.
I am tired of living in a state that makes war against countries that do not threaten us.
I am tired of watching basic constitutional rights,such as the rights to privacy,taken away from citizens.
Most of all,I am tired of being told every four years that I must vote for candidates who do nothing to stop the brutal and callous assault by corporations on the American working class,sending their jobs overseas and stripping workers of benefits and human dignity.
And so - to be sure that this year my vote goes to someone who does more than pay lip service to the moral and physical deterioration of the nation - I will pull the lever for Dennis Kucinich.
I can hear the collective groan.He won't win.He has no real following.It is a wasted vote.
But this is the groan of the comfortable,those who have health insurance and a decent job.This is the groan of those who can send their kids to expensive colleges and probably went to one.

The rest of the article can be found at Truthdig.com.Sorry,link not working at the moment.

[anwthan-a]

working now.

http://www.truthdig.com/report/item/..._on_the_trail/

[Stoner]

Also from that link:

Kucinich advocates a full-employment economy, calling for a new version of the 1930s Works Progress Administration (WPA), which employed millions of Americans. He wants to put people to work to rebuild the country’s crumbling infrastructure, from its roads and bridges to its dams, levies, sewer systems, libraries and mass transit.

There is no commonality between desperation in/of the Great Depression and the economy of today.
Kucinich's solution for full employment is a socialist state.

[LANMaster]

Kucinich is a joke.

[anwthan-a]

And that's just the sort of remark I would have expected from you Lan.You didn't disappoint.

[anwthan-a]

The "commononality" is the recession that we are entering,isn't it?Weekly,hundreds of people losing their jobs and homes?Tho' conditions will not be anywhere near so bad as they were in the 30's,(in my country at least,) the psychological effects will be just as devastating.Perhaps more so.
..... Too tired.Night all.

[Stoner]

Originally Posted by anwthan-a

The "commononality" is the recession that we are entering,isn't it?Weekly,hundreds of people losing their jobs and homes?Tho' conditions will not be anywhere near so bad as they were in the 30's,(in my country at least,) the psychological effects will be just as devastating.Perhaps more so.
..... Too tired.Night all.

There is no commonality.
Recessions are not depressions and especially nothing similar to the Great Depression.
People lose their jobs and even their homes in 'good' times.
The Great Depression was a collapse of the economy.
I think we're in for a recession, no doubt.
And it could even be lengthy and severe.
But there are many jobs listed in my local news paper and until those disappear, there is no need for government intervention on the scale of Kocinich's proposition.

Tho' conditions will not be anywhere near so bad as they were in the 30's

No kidding.............

the psychological effects will be just as devastating.Perhaps more so.

You mean some people might actually be expected to work?
Heaven forbid.
Sometimes a person has to accept a lower paying job to survive.......what is so horrible about that?
What an easy life you must lead.

I look to make the situation better, but I do not see embracing a socialist state accomplishing that.
I've always felt welfare was just for those that couldn't take care of themselves.
Now comes a politician that wants welfare and gov't subsidy for all.
Who is going to pay for all those slackers?
How do you put people to work that don't want to?

You think Kucinich has done a good job in his own district?
Maybe you ought to check out the quality of Cleveland public schools and all the job losses ?
The guy whines about unfairness but the Cleveland area has been a rat hole for some time without much real improvement.
As I remember, at the time of the last Presidential election, about 30% of Cleveland was below poverty level.

Here's an example:
http://www.cleveland.com/census/inde...224164580.html
excerpt:

With an estimated 31.3 percent of its people in poverty, Cleveland topped the list of impoverished big cities for the first time in the four years census officials have conducted the American Community Survey

Kucinich does nothing for his district, what makes you think he should lead a nation?

[LANMaster]

Originally Posted by anwthan-a

And that's just the sort of remark I would have expected from you Lan.You didn't disappoint.

Truth hurts sometimes.

If it's any consolation, Ron Paul is also a joke.

[anwthan-a]

That figures.

[anwthan-a]

Stoner,will have to come back to this at a later date...
"You mean some people might actually be expected to work?"..No,that's not what I meant.
"But there are many jobs listed in my local paper."..What kind of jobs?Rate of pay?

You give the impression that the people of Cleveland talk of Kucinich disparagingly.I don't think so...
http://kucinich.house.gov/Biography/

[TooBad]

Kucinich, Ron Paul and Ross Perot, the three stooges!

[Stoner]

Originally Posted by anwthan-a

........................

You give the impression that the people of Cleveland talk of Kucinich disparagingly.I don't think so...
http://kucinich.house.gov/Biography/

No...no...no.......the rest of Ohio speaks disparagingly of Kucinich.
Clevelanders are looking for government handouts and Dennis is their man .


BTW.....that link is a public announcement from Dennis Kucinich about Dennis Kucinich.
I have a bridge you might like to buy

[anwthan-a]

Did anyone watch the debate in Las Vegas from which Kucinich was excluded?Excluded?But why,you may ask?(I know,I know,)
Well this will answer your question.And answer much more besides.

http://www.democracynow.org/2008/1/1..._democracy_now

[Fidelista]

Kucinich..The Best,The Only Real Choice.. ?
Yes anwthan-a. The only real choice for a liberal Democrat .
Much is said about H.Clinton , Edwards, and Obama being far left liberals , but they are not , not even close --IMO.
These folks are moderates in most sense of the word
Dennis Kucinich is a liberal in most things that really matter , and a good man IMO.
Being a "real" liberal Democrat is not popular with the Democratic party , or the population in general --so --liberals will have no chance at seeing someone who represents their view in the Whitehouse.
The front runners on the Democratic ticket are all moderates ... sometimes almost Republican like .
We vote on who survives the process , and a liberal doesn't stand a chance, will never make it to general election , at least not now. >f

[wacor]

If Kucinich is a true liberal then the democrats should run for cover if they want to return to so called liberal roots. That guy is so far left it is not funny. He is about as close to a socialist as there is. He would not lose because of his being a liberal but because nobody but small cliques would ever support his nonsense.