[lotuseclat79]

Article here.

The Supreme Court heard arguments related to voter rights and Voter ID laws, last week.

-- Tom

[Ciberblade]

Why is it that these things never cite any sources -- not even a reference to the filing (which would be easy to look up on public record) Oh, but do cite an Op-Ed for support

It's basically saying you must show proof of who you are to vote...a drivers license or ID card. For all the focus on the drivers license....it makes little mention to the state ID card that any citizen can pick up.

[lotuseclat79]

Hi Ciberblade,

Well, I suppose one could look up the Supreme Court goings on somewhere - I'm sure there is a link out there, and yes a link would be handy. The questions still remain, however, and they are good questions to ask - never, ever stop asking questions about your government!

There was no Op-Ed cited for this post. If you mean, the other thread I posted about the NYT, I have no need for support - the article stressed an opinion which I just so happened to agree with - Kristol and his NeoCon brethern not only co-opted our government's Foreign Policy, but got us involved in an unnecessary war.

-- Tom

P.S. An important issue in any Presidential election is who gets to nominate the next SC Justice? Issues everywhere!

[Littlefield]

Originally Posted by lotuseclat79

Hi Ciberblade,

Well, I suppose one could look up the Supreme Court goings on somewhere - I'm sure there is a link out there, and yes a link would be handy. The questions still remain, however, and they are good questions to ask - never, ever stop asking questions about your government!

There was no Op-Ed cited for this post. If you mean, the other thread I posted about the NYT, I have no need for support - the article stressed an opinion which I just so happened to agree with - Kristol and his NeoCon brethern not only co-opted our government's Foreign Policy, but got us involved in an unnecessary war.

-- Tom

P.S. An important issue in any Presidential election is who gets to nominate the next SC Justice? Issues everywhere!

And what is funny is the NY Times was one of the big supporters that pushed for the Iraq War

Remember Judith Miller .

[Ciberblade]

Tom ~ the article you posted cited the Op-Ed (sorry, I should have made that more clear)

[wacor]

Why is it so bad to want to ensure that one who votes is actually the person in question.

I don't buy the argument that it will affect the poor. If food stamps is the way it used to be one could not get them without presenting ID. My wife worked at a grocery store and said this ID issue is baloney.

On the other hand we have voter ID where I live. Except if you don't have ID you can sign a statement. i guess that is so they can verify a signature which seems idiotic.

We need voter ID. EVERY election the city of Detroit has dead voters somehow vote. Even a 30 year old going to buy booze will get carded now a days. How on earth can we not demand voter ID.

[LANMaster]

No legal I.D.? No right to vote.

Seems fair to me.

[LANMaster]

Originally Posted by wacor

Why is it so bad to want to ensure that one who votes is actually the person in question.

Because if the Democrats can no longer count on the fraudulent vote, they will lose more elections.

It is really as simple as that.

[BDACBT]

Originally Posted by wacor

Why is it so bad to want to ensure that one who votes is actually the person in question.

I don't buy the argument that it will affect the poor. If food stamps is the way it used to be one could not get them without presenting ID. My wife worked at a grocery store and said this ID issue is baloney.

On the other hand we have voter ID where I live. Except if you don't have ID you can sign a statement. i guess that is so they can verify a signature which seems idiotic.

We need voter ID. EVERY election the city of Detroit has dead voters somehow vote. Even a 30 year old going to buy booze will get carded now a days. How on earth can we not demand voter ID.

The argument that voters will be disenfranchised is nothing but a red herring. The voter has the means to get to the polls but is completely incapable of getting to a place where an ID could be issued? What B.S.! If I were on the left and expected to propagate this crap, I would be angry. It is such a ridiculous argument.

[wacor]

Originally Posted by BDACBT

The argument that voters will be disenfranchised is nothing but a red herring. The voter has the means to get to the polls but is completely incapable of getting to a place where an ID could be issued? What B.S.! If I were on the left and expected to propagate this crap, I would be angry. It is such a ridiculous argument.

You could even take the alleged disenfranchised to a place to get the ID and they still would find an excuse. Maybe it is because the left is worried about losing a part of its base. You know the illegal immigrants.

[Littlefield]

You should have an ID to vote I agree .IN SC :
For identification to vote, you may present either your voter registration certificate, a valid South Carolina driver's license, or a South Carolina Department of Motor Vehicles issued photo I.D. card. Source: Secretary of state Web site.




http://www.electionline.org/Default.aspx?tabid=364

[linskyjack]

Originally Posted by BDACBT

The argument that voters will be disenfranchised is nothing but a red herring. The voter has the means to get to the polls but is completely incapable of getting to a place where an ID could be issued? What B.S.! If I were on the left and expected to propagate this crap, I would be angry. It is such a ridiculous argument.

Actually, many old people don't have identification and they get to the polls via lifts from relatives, political groups etc. As usuall, Mr. Rightie thinks everyone is like him.

[bill.aam]

Originally Posted by linskyjack

Actually, many old people don't have identification and they get to the polls via lifts from relatives, political groups etc. As usuall, Mr. Rightie thinks everyone is like him.

I think you just made his point. If all these people and or organizations are willing to take the old people to the "polls" why are they so unwilling to take them to get a State ID's?

I believe tha'st one the arguments I've heard, the old and poor people have no way to get to the places to get a State ID's, so your taken away their right to vote... thats BS...

As usuall, linskyjack making personal attackes....

[LANMaster]

Bill.
What about all these "compassionate Democrats" bussing older people and immigrants to the polls ..... why aren't they bussing them down to the DMV to get their proper I.D.s

Hawgwash Linsky.

[linskyjack]

Originally Posted by bill.aam

I think you just made his point. If all these people and or organizations are willing to take the old people to the "polls" why are they so unwilling to take them to get a State ID's?

I believe tha'st one the arguments I've heard, the old and poor people have no way to get to the places to get a State ID's, so your taken away their right to vote... thats BS...

As usuall, linskyjack making personal attackes....

OH please, how absurd you are. Okay grandma, lets go to the MVB to get you a license! Hey, maybe you could pay for it Billy boy! Are you positing that people have an endless amount of resources that would allow them to provide these services to the aged, infirm, etc? Again, you wingers have no soul. None whatsoever. If you were living in the South during the 1950's you would probably be one of those guys writing the question for the literacy "test" that allowed blacks to vote!