[LANMaster]

Number of Abortions Falls To Lowest Rate In 30 Years

Originally Posted by Anklebitingpundits

This is one of those stories I don’t know how to feel about. The number of abortions performed in 2005 (the most recent year in which stats are available) dropped to 1.2 million, the lowest amount since 1976.

While that is great news, and hopefully means more women are choosing not to have abortions, the number is simply staggering.

Think about it - 1.2 million. That’s the population of San Diego. It’s also the population of San Antonio. Imagine that all the people in San Diego or San Antonia just disappeared. That’s the magnitude of 1.2 million abortions.

And yes, I do believe that life starts at conception, so I see no difference between those living out of the womb and those living in it.

My purpose here is not to preach, or argue about the subject, just to have you think about the number of kids that never made it out of the womb - 1.2 million. That’s staggering, and it’s the “low” number in the last 30 years.

Look, I’m not one of those people who says no sex before marriage or anything like that (unless of course, it’s my daughter). I have no problem with places like Planned Parenthood or any other group giving out birth control. I also wouldn’t raise a ruckus if the school gave out condoms or other birth control devices so long as there was parental consent.

I’m not stupid enough to think you can stop kids from having sex (in fact I previously wrote about how useless abstinence education is), or that adults are going to wait to have sex till their married. That’s not the real world (indeed in a recent survey of over 38,000 people, 95% admitted having premarital sex - and that survey included women in their 60s).

I could care less whether or not a man or woman wants to have consensual sex with as many people as they want. It’s not my business.

But it’s just that I think once a pregnancy does occur, that it’s a life and the rights of mother are no greater than the rights of the child she is bearing.

1.2 million. Think about that.

You tell me that abortion is not used as a method of birth control?

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[iltos]

Originally Posted by LANMaster

Number of Abortions Falls To Lowest Rate In 30 Years

i support abortion, and think this is great news ....it's legalization -and the argument against it- is starting to have some real educational value, maybe....getting people to pay a bit more attention.

You tell me that abortion is not used as a method of birth control?

hard to tell from just one number, LAN, but you may be right....i was a shocked to understand that the 1.2 million figure (for 07, i guess) is about 25% of the number of births for '06

Bucking the trend in many other wealthy industrialized nations, the United States seems to be experiencing a baby boomlet, reporting the largest number of children born in 45 years.
The nearly 4.3 million births in 2006 were mostly due to a bigger population, especially a growing number of Hispanics. That group accounted for nearly one-quarter of all U.S. births
http://www.physorg.com/news119638009.html

don't have figures for miscarrages or pregnancies otherwise lost....be interesting to have some teenage pregnancy figures for this, too

but the bottom line is.....that's a lot of abortions.....

[LANMaster]

Yes. Too many, IMO
And while I support keeping abortion legal in the first trimester only I believe there has to be some kind of mandated counceling in order to try to prevent second and third abortions.

It looks like those are just US figures. I wonder what the global numbers are.

[iltos]

Originally Posted by LANMaster

Yes. Too many, IMO
And while I support keeping abortion legal in the first trimester only I believe there has to be some kind of mandated counceling in order to try to prevent second and third abortions.

It looks like those are just US figures. I wonder what the global numbers are.

now i'm confused....are HIS figures world wide, or just US?....i assumed US

[LANMaster]

I also assumed they were US figures

[pyritechips]

You tell me that abortion is not used as a method of birth control?

Yeah? So what if it is?

Number of Abortions Falls To Lowest Rate In 30 Years

Well, it is a non-growth industry!

[LANMaster]

Originally Posted by pyritechips

Yeah? So what if it is?

I don't feel that the murder of an innocent human life is moral.

But I'm sure that is where the argument really boils down to.
If you don't feel that a living fetus is equivalent to a living human being, then surely you don't consider it to be murder.

Number of Abortions Falls To Lowest Rate In 30 Years

Well, it is a non-growth industry!

Yer bad.

[twinofangelize56]

I tried to find some statistics on Teenage Pregnancy…. The ones I did access basically had information stating that teenage pregnancy rates have fallen since 1988 through 2000. I have also read articles stating just the opposite… that teenage pregnancy rates have risen! I guess it depends where you live actually.

The reason I bring this up is because if Abortions have fallen…. It makes sense that some of the teenage pregnancies have a lot to do with that! I couldn't find statistics on teenage abortions.

I work at a High School. I interact with students, teachers, counselors and parents. I personally know two teenage girls…. both 16 at the time… that gave birth within the last year!

I’m not sure how many girls had babies or are currently pregnant in our school district totally, but there is always a teenager pregnant or one just having a baby!

I can tell you that the adults that I talk to have all come up with the following conversations in regards to girls getting pregnant. These girls all WANT to get pregnant! They think that they will have someone to care for and someone to love them! They are also under the impression that when you get knocked up and have the baby…. The state will set you up in your own place and help pay for training, daycare, medical expenses, etc.! These girls WANT to get out of their homes! These girls WANT someone to love and for someone to love them! These girls don’t care which boy does the job! This is a real wake up call to parents … and very often…. it comes too late!

So…. Why should these teenage girls even think of getting an abortion? Even if their parents gave consent and encouraged them to do so!

With these girls thinking like this…. Who needs birth control? Who needs an abortion? Who worries about getting pregnant? Heck…. They aren’t even thinking about STD’s…. and God forbid… AIDS!

[pyritechips]

I don't feel that the murder of an innocent human life is moral.

But I'm sure that is where the argument really boils down to.
If you don't feel that a living fetus is equivalent to a living human being, then surely you don't consider it to be murder.

Yeah we have been through this argument umpteen times. I refuse to flog a dead horse. I hope that is not your intent with this apparently redudant thread.

Yer bad.

Somebody has to be!

[iltos]

Originally Posted by pyritechips

Yeah we have been through this argument umpteen times. I refuse to flog a dead horse. I hope that is not your intent with this apparently redudant thread.

have to say here i kinda wondered that myself

but i am glad that abortions are down so significantly....takes some of the wind out of the sails of those who feel roe v. wade was the ultimate slap in the face of morality....people actually can use choice wisely

[pyritechips]

I'm just hoping that the lower abortion rate means that more people are being responsible and using condoms, or other forms of birth control. I don't want unwanted pregnancies, sexually transmitted diseases and overpopulation to be a religiously motivated football. I think we all have a fundamentally human moral obligation to be responsible in this matter. One extremely crucial point is that third world countries are rife with the aforementioned problems due to either cultural or religious resistance to practicing safe sex.

[Rep]

Originally Posted by pyritechips

I'm just hoping that the lower abortion rate means that more people are being responsible and using condoms, or other forms of birth control. I don't want unwanted pregnancies, sexually transmitted diseases and overpopulation to be a religiously motivated football. I think we all have a fundamentally human moral obligation to be responsible in this matter. One extremely crucial point is that third world countries are rife with the aforementioned problems due to either cultural or religious resistance to practicing safe sex.

The right wing political establishment is scared when this type of thing happens. If abortion is not in the forefront, how can it be used to establish and maintain political electoral dominance? Same with gay marriage and guns.

the electids do not want those issues to go away. If they did, they would have to stand on their real record of national security and the economy.

If you were a conservative and up for election, or, in charge of maintaining or gaining majority party status, would you want to do so touting the recent conservative record?

Didn't think so.

[bassetman]

Originally Posted by iltos

now i'm confused....are HIS figures world wide, or just US?....i assumed US

Do you also know that miscarriages are counted as abortions?

[iltos]

Originally Posted by bassetman

Do you also know that miscarriages are counted as abortions?

no i didn't.....gotta link to that, bman?

[bassetman]

Originally Posted by iltos

no i didn't.....gotta link to that, bman?

One source, there are many versions:

Miscarriage Statistics - A Look at the Figures and Definitions
Miscarriage statistics can be dramatic. Miscarriage reportedly occurs in 20 percent of all pregnancies. However, according to some sources, this may be an inaccurate number. Many women, before realizing a life has begun forming within them, may miscarry without knowing it-assuming their miscarriage is merely a heavier period. Therefore, the miscarriage rate may be closer to 40 or 50 percent. Of the number of women who miscarry, 20 percent will suffer recurring miscarriages.

Miscarriage refers to the loss of a developing pregnancy up until the twentieth week of gestation. Medical terminology labels this event as a spontaneous abortion. Many women who miscarry find this term offensive. However, it is important to note that the term "abortion" merely denotes the loss of a pregnancy. It does not, in the medical field, assume the pregnancy ended because of the woman's choice. The proper term for a chosen procedure is elective abortion. When a woman loses her pregnancy after the twentieth week of pregnancy, the loss is referred to as a stillbirth.

...http://www.allaboutlifechallenges.or...Statistics.htm