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20-Jan-2008, 12:35 PM #1
Heard of this guy?
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Sheikh Ahmed Hussein Deedat (July 1, 1918 - August 9, 2005) was a self-proclaimed Muslim scholar of Comparative religion, an author, lecturer, and an orator. He was best known for witty inter-religious public debates. His writings have been criticized as fundamentalist[1], antisemitic[2] , anti-Christian[citation needed] and anti-Hindu[3], though his supporters deny this.

What differentiated Deedat's approach from his contemporaries, apart from his command of the English language, was that he would not only use references from the Qur'an and the Hadith, but also use his intensive knowledge of the Bible and Holy scriptures.

His pre-recorded programs are shown on Peace TV, which is a 24/7 Islamic channel that is based in Mumbai, India, and is being broadcast to many countries around the globe.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ahmed_Deedat

He never seems to have lost a debate on very complex things from what I've seen so far.

If you're interested look at the debates he's had.

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20-Jan-2008, 12:57 PM #2
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Zakir Abdul Karim Naik (Arabic: زاكر نايك) (born: October 18, 1965) is an Indian public speaker, and writer on the subject of Islam and comparative religion. By profession, he is a medical doctor, attaining a Bachelor of Medicine and Surgery from Maharashtra, but since 1991 he has focused on preaching Islam.[1]

Zakir Naik is also the founder and president of the Islamic Research Foundation (IRF), a non-profit organization that owns Peace TV network.[1]


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20-Jan-2008, 01:04 PM #3
This is the problem with Empire and the rest of the so-called moderate Muslims. He chooses to admire a guy who is anti-Christian, Anti-Semitic, and a total right wing fundamentalist Whacko-- There is no hope for Islam.
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20-Jan-2008, 01:07 PM #4
Lol if you clicked on the link in question.You might have noticed that "The neutrality of this article is disputed."

Also if you bother to at least give the guy a chance instead of gobbling up everything that's thrown at you,you might notice that there is nothing anti-Christian/Hindu/Semitic.

EDIT:By the way..did I mention even vaguely that I admired him in any way? I just stumbled upon him and watched parts of his videos, and I decided to share?

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20-Jan-2008, 02:19 PM #5
So why did you post this? Does this guy make you proud because he can debate by using the NT and the OT. What does that mean? That he is Sophist?
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20-Jan-2008, 03:19 PM #6
Strikes me as another topic for discussion, nothing more or less.
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20-Jan-2008, 03:52 PM #7
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Strikes me as another topic for discussion, nothing more or less.
Ditto. Get off your high horse Jack. Empire is simply trying to start a debate. He asked a perfectly reasonable question. I don't believe he expressed any undying love for the guy either. He just asked a question.
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20-Jan-2008, 04:09 PM #8
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ahmed_Deedat

He never seems to have lost a debate on very complex things from what I've seen so far.

If you're interested look at the debates he's had.

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Hey Empire,

Yes, I've heard of this guy before. I think he was more moderate scholar than some of the true lunatic "scholars" that have perverted the true meaning of Islam to suit their xenophobic and hate filled ways. However I do sometimes wonder whether he was just pretending to be moderate, then othertimes I heard of more positive things he had done and thought to myself "Well maybe he is moderate afterall"... Some of his readings and literature, particularly with regards Hindus in India and South Africa, sailed "close to the line" in what is acceptable in healthy religious debate. I don't think he was perfect, but I don't think he was the hate filled warmonger that Jack likes to believe all Muslims are.

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20-Jan-2008, 05:40 PM #9
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Ditto. Get off your high horse Jack. Empire is simply trying to start a debate. He asked a perfectly reasonable question. I don't believe he expressed any undying love for the guy either. He just asked a question.
You get off your mule. Start a debate by posting a thread about a good debating racist. What Empire is doing is trying to find some reason behind Islamo-Fascism and he has picked the wrong fellow!
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20-Jan-2008, 05:42 PM #10
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I love seeing that!
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I love seeing that!
I'm beginning to see why.
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20-Jan-2008, 06:14 PM #12
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You get off your mule. Start a debate by posting a thread about a good debating racist. What Empire is doing is trying to find some reason behind Islamo-Fascism and he has picked the wrong fellow!
True to form as ever Jack. I didn't expect anything less from you.
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20-Jan-2008, 06:21 PM #13
None of you guys have the ego to ignore me. You are twitching like the fingers of a trigger on a gun. He Pyrite, we are still waiting for your circumcision figures? Whats the problem?
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20-Jan-2008, 06:25 PM #14
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So why did you post this? Does this guy make you proud because he can debate by using the NT and the OT. What does that mean? That he is Sophist?
Yeah he makes me proud of being able to debate properly,so what?
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20-Jan-2008, 06:27 PM #15
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You get off your mule. Start a debate by posting a thread about a good debating racist. What Empire is doing is trying to find some reason behind Islamo-Fascism and he has picked the wrong fellow!
LOL ..connecting dots that don't exist?
 

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