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Charting a path for Civil Rights for Blacks - Who was right?

 
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20-Jan-2008, 10:05 PM #1
Charting a path for Civil Rights for Blacks - Who was right?
Ran across a column by Dinesh D'Souza where he discusses who was the greatest African American. His belief was that it would be Booker T. Washington. In the article he refers to debates between Washington and W.E.B. Dubois.................

Would Washington get the same disrepect from some that Bill Cosby gets when discussing the black culture??

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DuBois, a distinguished scholar and co-founder of the civil rights organization NAACP, argued that blacks in America face one big problem, and it is racism. Washington, who was born a slave but went on to become head of the Tuskegee Institute, countered that blacks face two big problems. One is racism, he conceded. The other, he said, is African American cultural disadvantage. Washington contended that black crime rates were too high, black savings rates were too low, there were too many broken families, blacks did not have enough respect for educational achievement, and so on.

DuBois insisted that these problems, if they existed, were due to the legacy of slavery and racism. Washington did not entirely disagree, but he insisted that, whatever their source, these cultural problems demanded attention. What is the point of having rights, Washington said, without the ability to exercise those rights and compete effectively with other groups? To put the matter in contemporary terms, there is little benefit in having a right to a job at Microsoft if you don't have the skills to get and perform the job. Washington further implied that if these cultural deficiencies were not remedied, they would help to strengthen racism by giving it an empirical foundation.
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20-Jan-2008, 10:12 PM #2
Don't know who the greatest is--but OJ Simpson is definitely NOT in the running!
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Don't know who the greatest is--but OJ Simpson is definitely NOT in the running!
Did you take a second and read the article? I am sure the liberals will disagree but the writer made some good points about how other minorities have prospered while blacks have not.
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Did you take a second and read the article? I am sure the liberals will disagree but the writer made some good points about how other minorities have prospered while blacks have not.
I just read the blurb--I frankly don't like these "Greatest Black American" discussions--that's part of the problem. We should be talking about "Great Americans" and not focusing on their race or nationality. Booker T was a "Great American" period.
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I just read the blurb--I frankly don't like these "Greatest Black American" discussions--that's part of the problem. We should be talking about "Great Americans" and not focusing on their race or nationality. Booker T was a "Great American" period.
I did not post that to discuss the debate who was the greatest black american. I was pointing out Washingtons views versus Dubois. I think he is right.
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20-Jan-2008, 10:27 PM #6
We all know that "The Greatest" was Mohammad Ali.
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20-Jan-2008, 10:29 PM #7
Try to discuss something serious and get sandwiched by the dueling attys.

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I did not post that to discuss the debate who was the greatest black american. I was pointing out Washingtons views versus Dubois. I think he is right.
Sorry--didn't catch the point of your thread. But its a no-brainer really. How could anyone possibly disagree with Booker's analysis?
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Sorry--didn't catch the point of your thread. But its a no-brainer really. How could anyone possibly disagree with Booker's analysis?
I agree................. But you know there will be some that do.

I was hoping to witness their foolishness trying.
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Ran across a column by Dinesh D'Souza where he discusses who was the greatest African American.
Dude! It has to be James Brown!

Anyway, "African-American is such horse poop. Can I call myself English-Scottish-Irish Canadian? For Christ's sake, all this pollitical correctness is going to choke the life out of us!
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I agree................. But you know there will be some that do.

I was hoping to witness their foolishness trying.
Ahhhh--I get it--a "baiting a stupid liberal" thread--I started a number of those myself in my time--aided by Gbrumb of course--we've seen enough stupidity on this board to last a life time!!!
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I agree................. But you know there will be some that do.

I was hoping to witness their foolishness trying.
Don't worry linsky will be along to support the position of Dubois. He will also call you names because you are "whitey" and how could you possibly understand the plight of the black man in America. Yada Yada Yada. Somewhere he will also through in "winger" and "righty", in other words, his usual.
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Ahhhh--I get it--a "baiting a stupid liberal" thread--I started a number of those myself in my time--aided by Gbrumb of course--we've seen enough stupidity on this board to last a life time!!!
You are a little slow to catch on I see.
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Don't worry linsky will be along to support the position of Dubois. He will also call you names because you are "whitey" and how could you possibly understand the plight of the black man in America. Yada Yada Yada. Somewhere he will also through in "winger" and "righty", in other words, his usual.
Kind of hard to argue with your assessment.
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Can I call myself English-Scottish-Irish Canadian?
Dude, its insulting enough to call yourself Canadian, no need to belittle the other countries.
 

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