[NinjaAsssasin]

So I have been thinking humans as a society behave more like a virus than mamals.

Look at this we comsume, multiply and destroy in a viral behavior, rather than coexist with the world around us like all other living things?

Now not all humans have this behavior, Indiginous tribes behave like all other mamals.

[iltos]

Originally Posted by NinjaAsssasin

So I have been thinking humans as a society behave more like a virus than mamals.

Look at this we comsume, multiply and destroy in a viral behavior, rather than coexist with the world around us like all other living things?

Now not all humans have this behavior, Indiginous tribes behave like all other mamals.

well, since my last name is anderson, i can't vote virus or people will lose all hope

when i was younger, i used to wonder along similar lines...i thought in terms of cancer tho -a malignancy that violated the "normal" laws of interaction between life on this planet and its environments....if you dig around a bit, you can find some pretty serious consideration of that arguement, and some of it even has at least some scientific support.

but evolutionary biology includes humans, as well as our faculties/skills, which are considerable....so to me, the individual is the microcosm of your question...the pedofile, the serial killer. the exteme example -all are outsiders, creating artificial relationships in the world as a substitute for community

and its argued that some social systems have operated the same way, breaking the bond of community with the rest of life.

human conciousness -knowing that we know- has perhaps made us feel a bit like outsiders....we are, after all, in rather a unique postion....but there is evidence that we are starting to come around.

[NinjaAsssasin]

Originally Posted by iltos

well, since my last name is anderson, i can't vote virus or people will lose all hope

when i was younger, i used to wonder along similar lines...i thought in terms of cancer tho -a malignancy that violated the "normal" laws of interaction between life on this planet and its environments....if you dig around a bit, you can find some pretty serious consideration of that arguement, and some of it even has at least some scientific support.

but evolutionary biology includes humans, as well as our faculties/skills, which are considerable....so to me, the individual is the microcosm of your question...the pedofile, the serial killer. the exteme example -all are outsiders, creating artificial relationships in the world as a substitute for community

and its argued that some social systems have operated the same way, breaking the bond of community with the rest of life.

human conciousness -knowing that we know- has perhaps made us feel a bit like outsiders....we are, after all, in rather a unique postion....but there is evidence that we are starting to come around.

Nice, like i said not all humans behave in that manner.

[Ciberblade]

Originally Posted by iltos

well, since my last name is anderson, i can't vote virus or people will lose all hope

Ok, this made me laugh out loud

[WarC]

Viruses are organisms.

Organisms attempt to multiply.

eco-systems are just the happenstance that occurs when a bunch of organisms find a way to roughly maintain an existence. It isn't that they consciously decide to establish an equilibrium. To do that implies that all mammals have a sense of awareness and empathy in the community beyond that of a virus. As far we know we are the only animal to develop that level of consciousness.

A wolf never realizes that they need to ration out their prey. In an eco-system they may over-eat, and the eco-system balances out because the surplus population of wolves dies off until theres enough prey to go around to maintain the population again. It's the food chain, supply and demand...not compassion. Nature is very unforgiving about life.

We have no natural predators, we find shelter easily, and we have enough food to support a growing population because of one thing: technology. Technology allows us to implement tools which amplify our chance to succeed in a natural environment. THAT is why the human population has exploded...And it also explains why native peoples seem more "in tune" with their environments - They do not have the same tools at hand to manipulate that environment for the benefit of their social organism. Their populations are limited by that environment.

[WarC]

Wow, huge foil up on that post. Viruses aren't multi-cellular. so while they are still adaptive and subject to natural selection they aren't technically organisms.

I didn't notice it until I was high.

[iltos]

Originally Posted by WarC

I didn't notice it until I was high.

[WarC]

LOL perfect expression on that guy. That might be the shortest post I've ever seen you make iltos!

[linskyjack]

I doubt that the idiot savant will have much more to contribute to this moronic thread.

[Gabriel]

Originally Posted by linskyjack

I doubt that the idiot savant will have much more to contribute to this moronic thread.

Which idiot savant, LJ

[Gabriel]

Can we be mammals with a cold?

[iltos]

Originally Posted by Gabriel

Can we be mammals with a cold?

it's those dang viruses

[Gabriel]

Originally Posted by iltos

it's those dang viruses

Yes, they get in our brain by way of colds, and make us act like them

[Gabriel]

I did know a guy that was obsessed that we (humans) are viruses. He really believed it, and wrang his hands and face compulsively....he was a really good pointillism artist. He did portraits that were ultra-real

[WarC]

Originally Posted by Gabriel

Can we be mammals with a cold?

Only if you help us tie our shoes!