[bill.aam]

This is IMO, one reason people need to pass a test BEFORE they are allowed to vote. Not only to see if they are aware of political issues, but also to make sure they are not idiots...

Voters are told pen had 'invisible ink'
BLANK BALLOTS | Staffers try to reach 20 who thought they'd voted

February 6, 2008
BY ANNIE SWEENEY Staff Reporter/asweeney@suntimes.com
When it comes to election shenanigans, Chicago has been accused of just about everything.

But invisible ink?

Twenty voters at a Far North Side precinct who found their ink pens not working were told by election judges not to worry.

It's invisible ink, officials said. The scanner will count it.

But their votes weren't recorded after all.

SunTimes

Are you aware that the word gullible is NOT in the dictionary?

[poochee]

The election judges involved should be fined/jailed.

Testing voters sounds Communist to me. Government control.

[BDACBT]

Originally Posted by bill.aam

This is IMO, one reason people need to pass a test BEFORE they are allowed to vote. Not only to see if they are aware of political issues, but also to make sure they are not idiots...
SunTimes

Are you aware that the word gullible is NOT in the dictionary?

One of the 20 disenfranchised voters was an Amy Carlton, a self-described person of privilege. Ms. Carlton has voted for 20 years and is angry that less privileged people may not be able to get back to the poll and cast a real ballot. Ms. Carlton has researched the candidates extensively and considers this to be the most important election of her lifetime.
When told of the invisible ink she thought it's so crazy it must be true.

OMG, Ms. Carlton, are you really this stupid? I cannot believe she has reached her level of privilege on her own.

[Mulderator]

I have always said that a pre-requisite to voting should be a high school diploma or high school equivalency (GED). I can't imagine why anyone would disapprove of such a requirement. A GED is well within the realm of even the most dimwitted people (we have our share here). We make people who want to be citizens pass a test but not those that want to vote?

If we did that, we wouldn't have all these problems with the idiots who don't know how to read a simple instruction on a ballot.

[bill.aam]

Originally Posted by poochee

The election judges involved should be fined/jailed.

Testing voters sounds Communist to me. Government control.

I thought you approved of Government control. Thats what Hillary's health care is all about....

[BDACBT]

Originally Posted by poochee

The election judges involved should be fined/jailed.

Testing voters sounds Communist to me. Government control.

Do you really feel that way or just yanking chains here? IF YOU"RE SERIOUS, society tests for everything except for the 2 most important functions individuals perform. That seems kind of crazy to me.

[Mulderator]

Originally Posted by poochee

Testing voters sounds Communist to me. Government control.

How is testing voters communist? We test drivers, we test new citizens, we test for all sorts of licenses (contractors, engineers, CPAs, lawyers, doctors, nurses--and the list goes on and on). Why would testing voters for proficiency be any different than testing for anything else?

[poochee]

Originally Posted by BDACBT

Do you really feel that way or just yanking chains here? IF YOU"RE SERIOUS, society tests for everything except for the 2 most important functions individuals perform. That seems kind of crazy to me.

I'm always serious.

It sounds like a "crazy" venture to attempt to test millions of people.

[Mulderator]

Originally Posted by BDACBT

Do you really feel that way or just yanking chains here? IF YOU"RE SERIOUS, society tests for everything except for the 2 most important functions individuals perform.

Voting and parenthood. Parenting skills are difficult to test for though, but voting is very easy.

[Mulderator]

Originally Posted by poochee

I'm always serious.

It sounds like a "crazy" venture to attempt to test millions of people.

Then why do we require everyone in the country to go to school through a certain age (varies by state)?

[valley]

Originally Posted by bill.aam

This is IMO, one reason people need to pass a test BEFORE they are allowed to vote. Not only to see if they are aware of political issues, but also to make sure they are not idiots...



SunTimes

Are you aware that the word gullible is NOT in the dictionary?

actually, my son has invisible ink pens and you need a special light to see the ink. If a person was told by an elections official that it was invisible ink, then there is no reason to stand there and argue. Its not being gullible, its trusting that the "officials" know what they are talking about. She was misled by a person in authority..she is not to blame. They have all sorts of new technology out there...she may have thought that this was a new procedure and that the ballot would be counted under a special light...its not entirely inconceivable. Especially when you have kids who use spy pens and know how cool they are.

[Mulderator]

Originally Posted by valley

They have all sorts of new technology out there...she may have thought that this was a new procedure and that the ballot would be counted under a special light...its not entirely inconceivable.

Perhaps you actually ARE a Democrat?

[valley]

Originally Posted by Mulderator

Perhaps you actually ARE a Democrat?

Hey if you had boys, you'd know all about invisible ink!

[BDACBT]

Originally Posted by Mulderator

I have always said that a pre-requisite to voting should be a high school diploma or high school equivalency (GED). I can't imagine why anyone would disapprove of such a requirement. A GED is well within the realm of even the most dimwitted people (we have our share here). We make people who want to be citizens pass a test but not those that want to vote?

If we did that, we wouldn't have all these problems with the idiots who don't know how to read a simple instruction on a ballot.

I have a 17 yr old daughter. She attends a good school, gets good grades and is friends with good kids. Over the last few years, I've casually thrown out simple questions to her and her friends. It's extremely disheartening when a 16 or 17 year old doesn't know who the Speaker of the House, the current Majority Leader in the Senate or the Secretary of State are. I think I'd apply a really draconian test.

You want to vote? State who the candidates are and what their positions are on the major issues?

Can you imagine, an educated electorate? Never,ever happen.

[iltos]

Originally Posted by Mulderator

I have always said that a pre-requisite to voting should be a high school diploma or high school equivalency (GED). I can't imagine why anyone would disapprove of such a requirement. A GED is well within the realm of even the most dimwitted people (we have our share here). We make people who want to be citizens pass a test but not those that want to vote?

If we did that, we wouldn't have all these problems with the idiots who don't know how to read a simple instruction on a ballot.

my son, 28, dropped out of high school...never got his diploma nor took the GED...
that was 11 years ago....he turned himself around, has paid for and become owner of and sold a gardening business, gone to BMW mechanics school (his passion has always been cars) and now has job on the line at a BMW dealership, earning pretty good money.....more importantly, tho, management has already taken an interest him, because he's knowledgable and eager to learn.

you tellin me that he not qualified to vote?

ain't buyin it.....

and it's iffy whether or not he's passed through his idealism....you might just lose someone who IS voting if you shook your finger at him and said..."here, take this test....we want you to show us your qualified"