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10-Feb-2008, 12:23 AM #1
Difficult To Believe This Happend In The U.s.
Hard to believe this is or has happened ANYWHERE in the U.S.A.!!!! Berkley, CALIFORNIA
Turn those speakers on and listen to this:
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10-Feb-2008, 12:33 AM #2
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10-Feb-2008, 12:38 AM #3
That's a heavily edited video clip. I cannot make any judgement without seeing the full unedited version.
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10-Feb-2008, 12:38 AM #4
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Hard to believe this is or has happened ANYWHERE in the U.S.A.!!!! Berkley, CALIFORNIA
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Have you spent any time at this forum? Those people you saw in the video (the Berkely nut jobs) are heros to Linsky and Poochee and bassetman and the rest of the leftist kooks here. Seriously, there are a lot more of those nut jobs around then you would think.
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10-Feb-2008, 12:43 AM #5
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That's a heavily edited video clip. I cannot make any judgement without seeing the full unedited version.
Nevermind the video. The whole point is their cause. Unfrickinbelievable.
http://www.cnn.com/2008/US/02/07/ber...sts/index.html
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10-Feb-2008, 12:43 AM #6
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Have you spent any time at this forum? Those people you saw in the video (the Berkely nut jobs) are heros to Linsky and Poochee and bassetman and the rest of the leftist kooks here. Seriously, there are a lot more of those nut jobs around then you would think.
Yes and they seem to congregate here at TSG, like flies to shat.
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10-Feb-2008, 12:46 AM #7
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Yes and they seem to congregate here at TSG, like flies to shat.

Well, you have to admit that there is a lot of bullshat here to congregate to! (Excluding myself, of course! )
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10-Feb-2008, 12:48 AM #8
I guess I'd rather be the fly...
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10-Feb-2008, 12:52 AM #9
SIGN THE PETITION BELOW AGAINST BERKELEYS ANTI-MILITARY ACTIONS

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10-Feb-2008, 12:58 AM #10
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I don't live there , so I will let them decide how to run their city.
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I'm Canadian so my signature doesn't count - nor do I care!
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10-Feb-2008, 01:00 AM #12
This is a pretty good summary of what's wrong with the City Counci's actions (from a legal standpoint):

http://www.capitalismcenter.org/Advo...on/default.htm

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TO THE CITY COUNCIL OF BERKELEY CALIFORNIA:

In resolutions passed January 29, 2008, the City Council of Berkeley has declared that United States Marine Corps recruiters are "uninvited and unwelcome intruders" within city limits and applauds those who choose to "impede" the Marines in their recruiting mission. The justification presented by the Council for these obnoxious and misdirected resolutions is that the Council objects to the Marines' role in Iraq, the laws forbidding open homosexuals from serving in the armed forces, and with the entirety of American history on the grounds that the United States has allegedly launched a series of "illegal, immoral and unprovoked wars of aggression."

Article I, Section VII of the Federal Constitution empowers the Congress with the responsibility to raise and support armies, while Article II, Section II empowers the President with the role of Commander-in-Chief. In contrast to these decision-makers, the role of the members of the Marine Corps is to prepare for and wage war as authorized by the Constitutional process. Unlike the President, the Congress, or the Berkeley City Council, the Marines are not a policy-making body.

For the Berkeley City Council to blame the Marines for the laws passed by Congress, or to condemn them because their members fight in a war that some choose to oppose is a grave miscarriage of justice. It implies that the Marines can choose which laws they follow, or which wars they fight in. It implies that the Marines are not beholden to the very Constitution that they swore to defend.

Furthermore, the Berkeley City Council's desire to prevent the Marines from speaking to young people about their mission within Berkeley's city limits while simultaneously giving anti-Marine protesters preferential treatment implies that the City Council is comfortable with its youth receiving information from only one side of the debate. This position insults both the Marines, many of whom are veterans of the current war and are able to provide a perspective interested people should be free to hear, and Berkeley's youth, who are apparently judged by the City Council to be too incompetent to form their own intelligent opinion about the armed forces and the responsibilities, risks and rewards that go with military service.

As American citizens and veterans of all branches of the armed services, we voice our steadfast opposition to the Berkeley City Council's despicable actions. In protest, we announce that we refuse to conduct any business within the Berkeley city limits, or patronize any company which has its headquarters within Berkeley. We call upon the U.S. Congress and the California State Legislature to suspend all federal and state payments that go to support any activity conducted by the Berkeley City Council until such time as the Council chooses to rescind its anti-Marine resolutions.

The Berkeley City Council has taken a position that puts them outside the constitutional union. They have targeted the innocent and have actively worked to keep their citizens ignorant of viewpoints that they have every right to hear. Until such time as the Berkeley City Council elects to restrain itself to its proper role, we choose not to deal with Berkeley's citizens or support their lives in any way.

Signed
This is the argument we had in another thread--that this action is no different than the Governor of Arkansas refusing to obey federal integration laws back in the late 50s. What I can't believe is how liberals got the ball$ to waive the Constitution in everyone's face. Those hypocrites don't follow the Constitution--not even close--they follow only the parts THEY agree with--it really is the height of arrogance as is this act by the Berkely City Council.
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10-Feb-2008, 01:04 AM #13
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I don't live there , so I will let them decide how to run their city.
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What a crock--how can you allow people to insult the Marines who are just doing their job? They have no control over what wars the country's leaders decide to enter them into--they deserve more respect than that--I can't believe EVERY American isn't outraged by this.
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10-Feb-2008, 01:04 AM #14
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Well, you have to admit that there is a lot of bullshat here to congregate to! (Excluding myself, of course! )
Those two do seem to attrack flies, do they not!?
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I guess I'd rather be the fly...
LOL I guess we know which is which!
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