[Stoner]

The question:

If you, as an American citizen, were to read or watch a video of an American serviceman/officer being waterboarded by a hostile nation such as Iran, would you:

1. Be angered, but accept it as a proper tool of interrogation.

2. Be angered because you see it as torture.

3. Not sure.

[valis]

odd how it looks with the shoe on the other foot.......seeing as how waterboarding is effective and, for all intents and purposes, non-lethal, I'd have to go with option 1.

War is, after all, hell. And lord knows I've seen enough video of things a LOT worse being done to american civilians.

Didn't we get a crapload of info out of those three guys we did it to?

[Stoner]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Waterboarding

There are hazards that include death.

[valis]

I voted b; torture is torture, imo.

but dang it, I wanted to vote a.

[valis]

I can see where death would be considered a hazardous side-effect.

[valis]

again; good question.

[valis]

from your link:

CIA officers who have subjected themselves to the technique have lasted an average of 14 seconds before caving in.

[Littlefield]

The guy that lasted 30 sec we got a lot info from and he is the same terrorist that cut the head of that journalist . Iran would do a lot more then waterboarding .


Oh have a good birthday Valis I see the cake symbol

[Stoner]

Originally Posted by Littlefield

The guy that lasted 30 sec we got a lot info from and he is the same terrorist that cut the head of that journalist . Iran would do a lot more then waterboarding .

You are stepping outside the quest of the poll.
I'm interested in how members feel about watching/learning of a US serviceman/officer being waterboarded by a hostile nation.

[Stoner]

Happy birthday Tim

[izme]

Obviously, words such as eithics and coerce come to mind but there is still a big difference between that and certain types of torture...using a flame or ripping someones eyeball out etc seem to really define torture...although unpleasant and the feeling of impending death is heavy on the mind..I might feel lucky that I am not in one of their torture chambers..strung up in the middle of the room and beat half to death with a rubber hose and a motorcycle chain ..with absolutely no sense of humanity and that's the mild reality of being caught by one of those islamofacists.

I think that one is left with the difference between saving lives or finding out who killed so many so insanely that we stop to think about what torture is and means...we live in a society where putting your hand on someones shoulder perhaps a little too forceful can be construde as assault and telling a woman she has a nice dress can be considered sexual harrassment...torture has became a broad spectrum of grey lines

So if waterboarding extracts any information that can save lives or catch more of these less than human monsters..then perhaps it is a lesser evil and necessary for the good of the US to drip water over the face of someone hell bent on genocide with no humanity at their core being

all bets are kind of off right now perhaps, this is a war like no other..the enemy a heartless maniacal fanatical and blood thirsty nightmare for this planet

Muslim shangri la at the end? I don't think so and let's make sure their sick plan never comes to fruition

by means that might not sit well with all? To acheive by force or threat isn't anything more that the islamofacts intend to do to us anyway by much darker and less humane means with certain grisly death as the final result

[Littlefield]

Originally Posted by Stoner

You are stepping outside the quest of the poll.
I'm interested in how members feel about watching/learning of a US serviceman/officer being waterboarded by a hostile nation.

Sure you would feel anger just as you would feel concern watching them go through SERE training with it as well .

[Stoner]

Originally Posted by izme

Obviously, words such as eithics and coerce come to mind but there is still a big difference between that and certain types of torture...using a flame or ripping someones eyeball out etc seem to really define torture...although unpleasant and the feeling of impending death is heavy on the mind..I might feel lucky that I am not in one of their torture chambers..strung up in the middle of the room and beat half to death with a rubber hose and a motorcycle chain ..with absolutely no sense of humanity and that's the mild reality of being caught by one of those islamofacists.

I think that one is left with the difference between saving lives or finding out who killed so many so insanely that we stop to think about what torture is and means...we live in a society where putting your hand on someones shoulder perhaps a little too forceful can be construde as assault and telling a woman she has a nice dress can be considered sexual harrassment...torture has became a broad spectrum of grey lines

So if waterboarding extracts any information that can save lives or catch more of these less than human monsters..then perhaps it is a lesser evil and necessary for the good of the US to drip water over the face of someone hell bent on genocide with no humanity at their core being

all bets are kind of off right now perhaps, this is a war like no other..the enemy a heartless maniacal fanatical and blood thirsty nightmare for this planet

Muslim shangri la at the end? I don't think so and let's make sure their sick plan never comes to fruition

by means that might not sit well with all? To acheive by force or threat isn't anything more that the islamofacts intend to do to us anyway by much darker and less humane means

Interesting commentary......but nothing to do with this poll, fish.
If you want to start a thread on the ethics and morality of waterboarding, it might be interesting.

I want to poll the forum on how they feel about US servicemen being waterboarded.

[izme]

Originally Posted by Stoner

Interesting commentary......but nothing to do with this poll, fish.
If you want to start a thread on the ethics and morality of waterboarding, it might be interesting.

I want to poll the forum on how they feel about US servicemen being waterboarded.

the topic is waterbaording and you know damn good and well it will go every direction..if you want absolute political correctness...perhaps you shouldn't have put this up

Waterbaording even a grey squirrel should also figure into the whole topic

[Stoner]

Originally Posted by Littlefield

Sure you would feel anger just as you would feel concern watching them go through SERE training with it as well .

SERE is voluntary, isn't it?