[Razra]

Lately I've been hearing alot of noise about overcrowding in prisons. And I was seeking out other's thoughts. I was think about this about and few questions questions came up.

Is this really a problem, or just over-hype?
If overcrowding is a problem, what can be done?
What kind out extreme solutions could be taken? Bloodsport, Death Sentence?


A few links on the story:

http://www.independent.org/newsroom/article.asp?id=1775
http://www.geocities.com/three_strik...f_prisons.html
http://www.nytimes.com/2007/07/31/us/31prisons.html

[Gabriel]

What do you mean by bloodsport, death sentence?

[linskyjack]

He means have the guys in prison fight to the death to get the population down. Prison over-crowding is a huge problem.

[poochee]

I just signed a petition for putting qualifying non-felons on a rehab program instead of prison. It may get on the ballot here if there are enough signatures. No specific details at this time.

[Guyzer]

On average the US has about 2,200.000 people locked up. A large percentage of those are for crimes related to drugs and many of those include marijuana related crimes. Stop sending the smokers to jail and you'll have more room for the real bad guys.

" State prisons also held an estimated 265,600 property offenders and 249,400 drug offenders. "
http://www.ojp.usdoj.gov/bjs/prisons.htm

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prisons..._United_States

http://usgovinfo.about.com/cs/census...aprisonpop.htm

[linskyjack]

Of course, but the law enforcement and prison complex people would lose jobs and they have a powerful lobby.

[Gabriel]

Originally Posted by linskyjack

He means have the guys in prison fight to the death to get the population down.

I guess the poster doesn't put much value on peoples life.

[Razra]

Originally Posted by Gabriel

I guess the poster doesn't put much value on peoples life.

Well, yes and no.

No, a human life isn't something just to throw away senselessly. I see ~no~ reason to kill someone for fun.

Yes, people will end up dieing. It happens. Puting criminals to death should be upheld. Some people had earned this. Crimes should be punished, and that is a reasonible punishment.

I mean Bloodsport by way of the Romans. Battles, combat, something. No nessicarily to the death either. Give prisoners the choice to join The Sport, no drafting. Rewards are given to those to do well. Prisoners who participate are allowed to live in special quarters, with higher living standards. Still in prison, just a bit snazzier. If a prisoner is in for X amount of years, the better they do the less time they spend. The worse their performance, the longer the sentence. If your in for life, you fight for the room you stay in.

[Gabriel]

What happens when they get out? They will have the gladiator mentality on the streets. That would be really weird. I don't think you've thought of long term consequences at all.

[Razra]

I have thought about it, but I'm running into a wall.

My thoughts were something along the lines of, military, or allowing them to continue as a fighter. Thoughts? Even if you don't agree.

Also, I forgot to point out the battles are open to those who are not prisoners.

[Gabriel]

Originally Posted by Razra

I have thought about it, but I'm running into a wall.

My thoughts were something along the lines of, military, or allowing them to continue as a fighter. Thoughts? Even if you don't agree.

Also, I forgot to point out the battles are open to those who are not prisoners.

Don't you think it would be more productive to help them re-orient their energies into society. After all, that's where they will live?
It sounds like you're into programming people to be or stay destructive

[Razra]

Originally Posted by Gabriel

Don't you think it would be more productive to help them re-orient their energies into society. After all, that's where they will live?
It sounds like you're into programming people to be or stay destructive

It may seem that way, I will admit. I do tend to lean towards what others call "Destructive". I believe people are becoming to soft, and not working towards a full potential. The weight problem in USA as and example.

Just because someone knows how to fight isn't a bad thing. While a person fight, why not also re-educate then to control themselves better. "Code of Honor" of sorts?

[Guyzer]

Originally Posted by linskyjack

Of course, but the law enforcement and prison complex people would lose jobs and they have a powerful lobby.

Ain't that a fact.

Read the story on this Canadian guy. It points out how far your stupid gov't will go and how much money it will spend on it's so called war on drugs. The sad thing is our gov't doesn't have the balls to tell your authorities to shove it where the sun don't shine.
http://www.rabble.ca/rabble_interview.shtml?x=66583

If you want to know more about him just Google Marc Emery....................

[linskyjack]

Originally Posted by Razra

Well, yes and no.

No, a human life isn't something just to throw away senselessly. I see ~no~ reason to kill someone for fun.

Yes, people will end up dieing. It happens. Puting criminals to death should be upheld. Some people had earned this. Crimes should be punished, and that is a reasonible punishment.

I mean Bloodsport by way of the Romans. Battles, combat, something. No nessicarily to the death either. Give prisoners the choice to join The Sport, no drafting. Rewards are given to those to do well. Prisoners who participate are allowed to live in special quarters, with higher living standards. Still in prison, just a bit snazzier. If a prisoner is in for X amount of years, the better they do the less time they spend. The worse their performance, the longer the sentence. If your in for life, you fight for the room you stay in.

I think a fitting punishment for all prisoners would be to ready your post and then correct the spelling. It would take years off their lives.

[linskyjack]

Originally Posted by Razra

I have thought about it, but I'm running into a wall.

My thoughts were something along the lines of, military, or allowing them to continue as a fighter. Thoughts? Even if you don't agree.

Also, I forgot to point out the battles are open to those who are not prisoners.

Ah, like the Dirty Dozen. We can send them on missions to kill Islamo-Fascists!