Is Spanking Child Abuse? - Page 3

Leah of FarAway · 22-Apr-2008, 04:25 PM **#31**

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Originally Posted by Kazoku

Kids revolution, spank our parents as pay back eh

My grandma once slapped me because I wanted her out of my room. I asked her to leave, asked her again then, when she didn’t want to go I pushed her shoulder and asked her to leave again. She slapped me for that and I, kind of as a reflex, slapped her back. It was not a hard slap because I realised in time what I was doing so my hand only slid over her cheek. She started crying because I actually dared to do that, and said I was disrespectful towards her…

Koot · 22-Apr-2008, 04:40 PM **#32**

Yes, I think spanking is a form of physical abuse. Spanking a child is no different than physically abusing an adult, which is against the law. Spanking a very small child that doesn't yet understand why he or she is being spanked makes no sense whatsoever. Spanking a small child that doesn't understand language yet only confuses them and makes them afraid. After a child gets to the age where they understand language you can reason with them and discuss their behaviour. It is far better to discuss your displeasure with a child than to physically abuse (hit) them. If the child won't respond to verbal demands then non-physical punishment is the choice, but never physical abuse. How would you as an adult want to be physically abused (hit) if you didn't do what was expected of you? It's no different with a child!

I have a 26 year-old son that never received a spanking. Not to say that he never did anything wrong, but when he did - I sat down with him and explained why he disappointed me. He grew up rarely ever doing anything that justified any punishment. He grew up into a man with respect for others and a high self-esteem. I am very proud of him, and the way he was reared. I wouldn't change a thing.

Littlefield · 06:08 PM

http://michellemalkin.com/2008/04/21...st-bush-hater/

Obama's little endorser, end of tape he says put Barack in White House.. Secret service is probably investigating family .
Link is pretty rough in language ,WARNING .
This little gangsta might cause the advocates aganist spanking children pause and get them to question that way of thinking.
Maybe this kid's parents were not spanked when little but need to be now!

Farmgirl22 · 22-Apr-2008, 06:06 PM **#34**

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Originally Posted by valley

excellent post, Becca!

Thank you Valley!

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Originally Posted by Leah of FarAway

Well I was mostly beaten as a child.
I think I’ve been spanked some too but a swat on the behind doesn’t nearly burn into your memory as a split lip...
Hmm, the last time I received a beating was…. At age 14, that was when my first pair of glasses broke… and I think I received it because I didn’t know the geography curriculum when my mother wanted to review it with me…
Hmm…. And another incident comes to my mind -- getting beaten because I was afraid to learn to ride my bike without those little wheels that were attached to the back wheel (what are they called anyway?)... I was what, 7 years old at that time...

Beatings are common in our family. My grandma beat my mother and my mother beat me and my brother.…. And sometimes my grandma beat my brother and me too. It’s almost tradition… well, I hope I can break that “tradition”….

It's a bit of a "tradition" in my family too--you can be the one to break the cycle...I'm doing it, so it can be done.

They say that history repeats itself...but only if you let it. I wish you the best!

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Originally Posted by Koot

Yes, I think spanking is a form of physical abuse. Spanking a child is no different than physically abusing an adult, which is against the law. Spanking a very small child that doesn't yet understand why he or she is being spanked makes no sense whatsoever. Spanking a small child that doesn't understand language yet only confuses them and makes them afraid. After a child gets to the age where they understand language you can reason with them and discuss their behaviour. It is far better to discuss your displeasure with a child than to physically abuse (hit) them. If the child won't respond to verbal demands then non-physical punishment is the choice, but never physical abuse. How would you as an adult want to be physically abused (hit) if you didn't do what was expected of you? It's no different with a child!

I have a 26 year-old son that never received a spanking. Not to say that he never did anything wrong, but when he did - I sat down with him and explained why he disappointed me. He grew up rarely ever doing anything that justified any punishment. He grew up into a man with respect for others and a high self-esteem. I am very proud of him, and the way he was reared. I wouldn't change a thing.

I got my last spanking at 17--which is pretty close to the standard of "adulthood". I deserved it and I knew it. I'm glad that your son was well behaved without it, but knowing the way I am, spanking was probably the best option. It's like someone said--the effectiveness of any punishment is truly limited to the personality of the person receiving the punishment.

I do have to ask though--what bearing does spanking have on respect? Or self esteem?

BEATING has an adverse effect on respect and verbal abuse has an adverse effect on esteem, but spanking IME does not have an adverse effect on either. I'm not trying to undermine you, I'm just genuinely confused.

Koot · 22-Apr-2008, 08:02 PM **#35**

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Originally Posted by Farmgirl22

Thank you Valley!

I do have to ask though--what bearing does spanking have on respect? Or self esteem?

BEATING has an adverse effect on respect and verbal abuse has an adverse effect on esteem, but spanking IME does not have an adverse effect on either. I'm not trying to undermine you, I'm just genuinely confused.

I believe people are a product of their environment, which can comprise many events. However, with reference to physical abuse (spanking, hitting) it is my belief there is much more likelihood that the person (child) will treat others in his or her life with some form of abuse. That may be his or her own child, spouse, a friend, a neighbor, etc. When this happens it is my opinion the person delivering the abuse lacks respect for others. On the other hand it is my opinion that when a person (child) is physically abused they cannot have a high level of self esteem...no more than an adult that is physically abused, e.g. spouse that is abused.

Abuse is almost always delivered by someone that wants to hold power over another person. How would you like your boss, or government (i.e. police) to physically abuse you for doing something wrong? I suggest to you there is no difference!

Mulderator · 22-Apr-2008, 08:38 PM **#36**

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Originally Posted by Leah of FarAway

My grandma once slapped me because I wanted her out of my room.

You'd NEVER do that to Mulder, would you?

Leah of FarAway · 23-Apr-2008, 12:26 AM **#37**

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Originally Posted by Farmgirl22

It's a bit of a "tradition" in my family too--you can be the one to break the cycle...I'm doing it, so it can be done.

They say that history repeats itself...but only if you let it. I wish you the best!

Thanks and good job breaking your “tradition”

Kazoku · 23-Apr-2008, 12:27 AM **#38**

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Originally Posted by Mulderator

You'd NEVER do that to Mulder, would you?

Why would yah' be in our room in the first place

Kazoku · 23-Apr-2008, 12:29 AM **#39**

If you don't think Spanking in any way is NOT phyiscal abuse/child abuse, then why do some countries BAN spanking?

There must be a reason in that >=)

Leah of FarAway · 23-Apr-2008, 12:30 AM **#40**

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Originally Posted by Mulderator

You'd NEVER do that to Mulder, would you?

Would never do what? Ask you to leave my room? LoL
Anyway, it would depend on your behaviour if I’d ask you to leave before or after.

Leah of FarAway · 23-Apr-2008, 12:39 AM **#41**

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Originally Posted by Kazoku

Why would yah' be in our room in the first place

OUR room? Ehm, shouldn’t you at least introduce yourself before you make a move on someone not to mention invite yourself in the person’s room?

Kazoku · 23-Apr-2008, 12:42 AM **#42**

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Originally Posted by Leah of FarAway

OUR room? Ehm, shouldn’t you at least introduce yourself before you make a move on someone not to mention invite yourself in the person’s room?

Who know's whos room hid go too