[Leah of FarAway]

Originally Posted by Mulderator

Exactly!

lol

[Farmgirl22]

Originally Posted by Kazoku

If you don't think Spanking in any way is NOT phyiscal abuse/child abuse, then why do some countries BAN spanking?

There must be a reason in that >=)

They do that in an attempt to curb BEATING--however, if someone is predisposed to BEATING others, a law isn't going to stop them. Common sense isn't a required trait for politicians--you'll soon see that for yourself.

It's not physical abuse though--it's a shock factor, not intended for real pain. It doesn't hurt (especially since Aidan is still in diapers)....I actually think swats are most effective on toddlers, because you don't hurt them, but it makes a "scary" noise which gets their attention--combine that with saying "NO!" and it generally gets the job done and he doesn't try that particular behavior again. Again, spanking is only a tool to teach discipline...it's not to be heavily relied on (overused), and YOU have to know your limits to keep from stepping over the line from spanking to beating. It's not a tool for everyone--but I don't feel that lawmakers should ban it from everyone just because some people are beaters....like I said above, laws don't make people who beat on others less inclined to do so.

Still think I'm an abuser? If so, do you want to hear a story, or two, or a thousand? I can tell you what child abuse REALLY is....

[LANMaster]

Refusing to spank your child should be considered child abuse.

(referring to open hand on the bottom as a deterrent for the child who has misbehaved)

[pyritechips]

Originally Posted by Kazoku

If you don't think Spanking in any way is NOT phyiscal abuse/child abuse, then why do some countries BAN spanking?

There must be a reason in that >=)

Because new age child psychologists have convinced legistatures that spanking will traumatize the poor little misunderstood darlings!

[Farmgirl22]

Originally Posted by LANMaster

Refusing to spank your child should be considered child abuse.

(referring to open hand on the bottom as a deterrent for the child who has misbehaved)

I don't know that I would go that far, because spanking is unnecessary for some children....however, I could agree with not disciplining your child as child abuse. So many kids these days simply don't have any--it's not beneficial to society to have so many undisciplined kids. I think I could also consider over-spoiling kids as child abuse....lack of discipline and over-spoiling ruin kids...period. With the "spiffy" spanking laws in place there seem to be more little brats with potty mouths, bad attitudes, and tendencies to tantrums/hitting running around than there should be. Makes us look like SUCH a civilized country, eh? Look, they are little cavemen!

[Kazoku]

You people surprise me O_O

[poochee]

Originally Posted by Kazoku

You people surprise me O_O

Still suprised?

Have you noticed that most look back on it with humour? I know I deserved more than I got! LOL

A person that was beaten would think differently.

[Sarge]

Originally Posted by Kazoku

You people surprise me O_O

Why does it surprise you? Please clarify.

[Leah of FarAway]

Originally Posted by poochee

Still suprised?

Have you noticed that most look back on it with humour? I know I deserved more than I got! LOL

A person that was beaten would think differently.

I look back at it with humor too, even though I got my fair share of beatings. -shrug- What doesn’t kill you, makes you stronger.

[Leah of FarAway]

Originally Posted by Sarge

Why does it surprise you? Please clarify.

Yes, clarify please.

[Farmgirl22]

Originally Posted by Kazoku

You people surprise me O_O

Why? Because even though we got spankings we still believe that they were beneficial and didn't harm us or ruin our self esteem, or engender hate, or whatever? Please explain.

[poochee]

Posting this here because I didn't want to start another thread for it.

updated 5:59 p.m. EDT, Fri August 29, 2008
Dad gets 18 months for forcing girl to kill cat
Associated Press

Story Highlights
Indiana man admits holding knife in 7-year-old daughter's hand to stab pet
39-year-old pleaded guilty to three felony counts; three others were dropped
He must also go to counseling, parenting classes, substance abuse treatment

MUNCIE, Indiana (AP) -- A man was sentenced to 18 months in prison after admitting that he forced his 7-year-old daughter to kill the family cat by holding a knife in her hand and making her stab the pet.

"I am extremely sorry for what I did," Danield J. Collins said during his sentencing Thursday. "Everything is my responsibility."

Collins, 39, pleaded guilty to a felony count of animal cruelty and two felony counts of neglect of a dependent. In exchange, prosecutors dropped three other felony charges.

"This is not civilized conduct," Judge Robert Barnet Jr. said as he sentenced Collins.

http://www.cnn.com/2008/CRIME/08/29/....ap/index.html

[arcticphoenix]

spanking is not abuse, to a point, if the parent(s) do not use excessive force, the problem is with parents today is they slap em too hard, if you apply the right amount of force as to not harm the child but give them the messege to listen, a firm whack, not a hard "SMACK" where you can hear the echo across the room/hallway and if you prefer as others have said, a hug n explanation of why you did this act on your child just to ensure that you werent tryin to harm em etc

spanking should be a messege as to get your child to listen, not to fear you



alaska is one cold mofo...dont let her stare freeze you in her tracks

PALIN FOR VP!!!! HAHA shes my state gov.

[arcticphoenix]

Originally Posted by pyritechips

Because new age child psychologists have convinced legistatures that spanking will traumatize the poor little misunderstood darlings!

its because nowadays children are a bit soft..everything is now sugar coated...........also...ive posted my thoughts...look lower....i think lower....

[Blackmirror]

I was spanked once by my dad

My mum used to hit me round the ear hole
In fact she hit me once i thought i had been hit by a bus
(Sneaked out when i should have been in bed to meet a lad )

Then there was the chasing me with the broom...

anyone would think i was naughty