[LANMaster]

Originally Posted by johnnyburst79

Looking for a way? Then why don't you tell me Bush's foreign policy on the democratically elected Palestinian government? Did he not laud Palestinians for going to elections and then denouncing them for not picking a pro US government?

In what way is diplomacy counter productive to the process and US interests?

Puleeeze.

The Palestinian looneys have been attacking civilians for decades before Bush was even on the scene.

Bush is the only US President who suggested a 2-state solution and was the driving force behind the "roadmap".
Bush has done more to give in to the Palestinians demands than any world leader, anywhere, at any time.
Now you condemn him for the actions they took to elect Hamas instead of a non-terrorist entity.

The thread is about that idiot, Jimmy Carter, and has nothing whatsoever to do with President Bush.

Get a life already.

[LANMaster]

Originally Posted by Rep

Look at the title of this thread people.

Why does the right wing hate so many main stream Americans? And, if this BS continues, how long will it be before the likes of Lan are showing up at your door at three AM demanding that you get in the truck?

No, it is time for us to change this bitterness.

Where are the Republicans? Have they just turned over and allowed this right wing total control of their party name?

I'm sorry you see hatred in the title of the thread.
As you can see plainly from the responses we read from those representing the defense of Jimmy Carter's action, the thr3ead title is 100% accurate.

Who cares if Carter acts treasonously against US interests?
Who cares that he plainly lied about the warning?

Certainly not the Dems.

I'm perfectly willing to change the bitterness once you and your pals on the left do 2 small things;

1. Stop accepting wrongdoing by your political party, just because you share the aisle.

2. Stop lying

I'm not particularly fond of your 3:am truck comment.
And if something like that ever does happen in this country, it will be because of the left, not the right.

[LANMaster]

Originally Posted by Mulderator

I'd rather have him showing up with his truck at 3:00 a.m. then you and your communist Democratic party siezing my bank account and home for the good of the "state." Jesus man, talk about your living nightmare--a massive homogenous society where no one has to work (unless you want to) no one has any goals (because there's nothing to work for), there is no God or right to worship God, there is no moral compass, babies are killed and killers are spared, and everyone is equally poor and misearble. That's liberal Utopia!!!

ZING! Got him right where he lives.

[johnnyburst79]

Originally Posted by LANMaster

Puleeeze.

The Palestinian looneys have been attacking civilians for decades before Bush was even on the scene.

Bush is the only US President who suggested a 2-state solution and was the driving force behind the "roadmap".
Bush has done more to give in to the Palestinians demands than any world leader, anywhere, at any time.
Now you condemn him for the actions they took to elect Hamas instead of a non-terrorist entity.

The thread is about that idiot, Jimmy Carter, and has nothing whatsoever to do with President Bush.

Get a life already.

Get a brain . I never said they haven't been attacking Israel but on the flipside, how many Palestinians has Israel jailed and killed?

So you are agreeing with me that he did push the 2 state solution, but not that he denounced them after they chose a political party not to the US' liking?

When the current President and his admin do get involved with a previous President, it does have a relation....

[LANMaster]

Originally Posted by johnnyburst79

Get a brain .

I'll see if Wal-Mart carries them.

I never said they haven't been attacking Israel but on the flipside, how many Palestinians has Israel jailed and killed?

Apparently not nearly enough to stop them from aiming and firing rockets at schoolyards full of kids.

So you are agreeing with me that he did push the 2 state solution, but not that he denounced them after they chose a political party not to the US' liking?

No, I am pointing out the fact that Jimmah Carter acted against the interest of the US State Department abd his passport should be revoked.

When the current President and his admin do get involved with a previous President, it does have a relation....

You just want to make every debate about Bush.

I'll let you know what I find at Wal-Mart.

[johnnyburst79]

Originally Posted by LANMaster

No, I am pointing out the fact that Jimmah Carter acted against the interest of the US State Department and his passport should be revoked.

Corrected the typo fer ya

Good luck at Walmart.

So, if a prominent American decides to do something on his own to promote peace against the wishes of the pro war government, the government should forbid him from traveling again? Are you insane? What ever happened to freedom and it being a god-given right, not a government granted privilege?

[sy2]

Originally Posted by johnnyburst79

Corrected the typo fer ya

Good luck at Walmart.

So, if a prominent American decides to do something on his own to promote peace against the wishes of the pro war government, the government should forbid him from traveling again? Are you insane? What ever happened to freedom and it being a god-given right, not a government granted privilege?

Well the guy is representing the US. Former president or no, we still pay him a pension for being a president.

No former president, be it Bush, Clinton, or Carter, should be holding unilateral talks with governments that the entire world consider to be terrorist organizations.

Hamas themselves are already using this to claim legitimacy. Just imagine how many republican heads on a spike would be demanded if Bush decided to go on unilateral foreign policy trips once he's out of office.

Are you telling me you'd be OK with Bush doing the same as Carter once he's out of office, or do you think that former president's should continue the tradition of at least somewhat respecting the current administration, regardless of personal ideologies?

I didn't even know that any democrats were defending this little trip - everything I've heard has been pretty much disapproving from all sides, although I haven't read too much on state-side reactions.

[wacor]

It is common sense you don't go and try to negotiate as an ex president unless you are carrying the torch for the current administration at the time. pretty simple stuff. It sends a mixed message whether one agrees with the administrations POV at the time or not.

[LANMaster]

Not every Democrat is a Jimmy Carter .... just most of them.

[bassetman]

Originally Posted by LANMaster

Puleeeze.

The Palestinian looneys have been attacking civilians for decades before Bush was even on the scene.

Bush is the only US President who suggested a 2-state solution and was the driving force behind the "roadmap".
Bush has done more to give in to the Palestinians demands than any world leader, anywhere, at any time.
Now you condemn him for the actions they took to elect Hamas instead of a non-terrorist entity.

The thread is about that idiot, Jimmy Carter, and has nothing whatsoever to do with President Bush.

Get a life already.

Lan please stop posting your mistake that Bush was the first prez to suggest a 2 state option. I already posted evidence that isn't true!

[LANMaster]

Originally Posted by bassetman

Lan please stop posting your mistake that Bush was the first prez to suggest a 2 state option. I already posted evidence that isn't true!

Huh?

That must have swept past me some time ago. Can you find it again?

Thanks.

[bassetman]

i'll see what i can do.

[bassetman]

Originally Posted by LANMaster

Huh?

That must have swept past me some time ago. Can you find it again?

Thanks.

http://forums.techguy.org/civilized-...ml#post5784319

[LANMaster]

Originally Posted by bassetman

Lan please stop posting your mistake that Bush was the first prez to suggest a 2 state option. I already posted evidence that isn't true!

Thank you for going back to get that, but please tell me which US President mentioned a 2-state ME solution either by quote or by bill.

[bassetman]

Originally Posted by LANMaster

Thank you for going back to get that, but please tell me which US President mentioned a 2-state ME solution either by quote or by bill.

Almost everything I found involving Bush I or Clinton requires a fee to read!