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Jimmy Carter: Terror Sympathizer AND Shameless Liar ... or just a good Democrat


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22-Apr-2008, 11:52 AM #1
Jimmy Carter: Terror Sympathizer AND Shameless Liar ... or just a good Democrat
Jimmy Carter: Terror Sympathizer AND Shameless Liar

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Jimmy Carter is not just a terrorist sympathizer.
The media reported that Jimmy Carter was going to meet with Hamas days before he set flew to the Middle East. The media also reported that the Bush Administration was not happy about Jimmy's scheduled meetings with the terrorist group Hamas. Jimmy Carter did nothing to reach out to the Bush Administration to resolve the situation. Even his fellow "Elders" pulled out of the meetings after talks with the US State Department.

Now, Jimmy Carter is saying that he was never told not to meet with Hamas.

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In an interview with NPR (Audio HERE) Jimmy Carter immediately embarrassed by Hamas by the host for noting that Hamas is already contradicting Jimmy's statements. Carter also outright lies about what the Bush Administration told him regarding his meeting with the terrorist group Hamas.


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State Department: We didn't think it would be an appropriate gesture and we encouraged him not to in fact meet with Hamas officials.

Jimmy Carter: Well let me say that before I came over here I put in a call to Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice and she got on the telephone and she was in Europe by her deputy David (?). I had a 20 minute conversation with him. He was quite positive. He never asked me or even suggested that I not come. And subsequently I saw all kinds of statements out of the State Department saying the begged me not to come, they urged me not to come. All of this is absolutely false. They never once asked me not to come.

NPR Host: Are you suggesting Mr. Carter that perhaps the Bush Administration would welcome some contact with Hamas even though they would like to publicly disown it in such a way?

Jimmy Carter: I can't say that. The fact is there are strong and daily negotiations between Israel and Hamas. And, it is public knowledge the mediators are the Egyptians... Israel puts together proposals for Hamas. Egypt shares them with Hamas. Hamas comes back with proposals which goes back to Jerusalem for answers and that goes on every day. So I'm not negotiating or mediating but everybody knows that there are negotiations going on and as a matter of fact the Deputy Prime Minister of Israel asked me to arrange with Hamas an agreement that he could participate personally in negotiations.
The US State Department was outraged at Jimmy's statements. Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice spoke out about this yesterday.
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Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice says the Bush administration explicitly warned former President Carter against meeting with members of Hamas, the Palestinian faction that controls the Gaza Strip and which is regarded by the U.S. as a terror group.

Rice, attending a regional meeting on Iraq's security and future Tuesday, contradicted Carter's assertions that he never got a clear signal from the State Department. Rice told reporters that the U.S. thought the visit could confuse the message that the U.S. will not deal with Hamas.

Carter says top Hamas leaders told him during seven hours of talks in Damascus over the weekend that they are willing to live next to Israel, but a top Hamas official said the group would never outright recognize the Jewish state.
Oh... And, Jimmy Carter is a plagiarist, too.
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22-Apr-2008, 12:30 PM #2
Lan read this by Mort Zuckerman US News World Report.
The Damage of Jimmy Carter
Carter's Hamas meeting legitimizes terrorism




There he goes again! Former President Jimmy Carter, acting out his stubborn, self-righteous moralism and his stunning vanity, persists in legitimizing terrorism. How else can the Middle East see Carter's meeting in Syria with no less than the terrorist mastermind Khaled Mashaal, the leader of Hamas?


This man Mashaal is responsible for dozens of deadly suicide bombings and thousands of mortar and rocket attacks that have killed more than 250 Israelis, not to speak of the violent takeover of the Gaza Strip by Hamas last June, which undercut newly revived efforts by Israel and the Palestinians to strike a final peace deal. And, oh, yes, several of Mashaal's victims have been Americans.

There is bipartisan condemnation of Carter's meeting, but Carter has a long history of support for Hamas. This is what Carter said on Nov. 28, 2006, on pbs: "Since August of 2004 [Hamas] has not committed a single act of terrorism that cost an Israeli life, not a single one."

That is flatly untrue.

''The peace process is difficult enough without Carter's lies. He says U.N. Resolution 242 specifies an
Israeli withdrawal to the 1967 border. It does not. The author of the resolution, British U.N. Ambassador Lord Caradon, has spelled it out. A book by Ken Stein, Carter's principal colleague on his previous trips to the Middle East, attacks the veracity of Carter's accounts of meetings with various leaders by which Carter justifies his anti-Israeli position.

A senior foreign policy official summed it all up: "Carter is an idiot savant," he said with a sigh. "But hold the savant.''

http://www.usnews.com/articles/opini....html?PageNr=1
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22-Apr-2008, 12:57 PM #3
Bush praised the day when the Palestinians held elections to start a government but then when Hamas was elected he criticized them and would not recognize them as well as stopped aid (or tried to). Typical American foreign policy...elect puppet governments or we will ignore you.

It is good though that the Palestinian government and Israel is talking and moving towards a peace process.

Don't forget, this is politics and everyone lie's, including the Almighty George W. Bush and his lackeys.
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22-Apr-2008, 01:02 PM #4
Carter is making things worse. Do you really think that Israel will withdraw from all lands it seized in the 1967 Arab-Israeli war.
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22-Apr-2008, 01:06 PM #5
Johnny. Always looking for a way to Bushify the argument.

What is your opinion on Carter's visiting Hamas after being warned that it would be counter-productive to the process, thereby in contradiction to US interests?
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Carter is making things worse. Do you really think that Israel will withdraw from all lands it seized in the 1967 Arab-Israeli war.
No, I don't.

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Johnny. Always looking for a way to Bushify the argument.

What is your opinion on Carter's visiting Hamas after being warned that it would be counter-productive to the process, thereby in contradiction to US interests?
Looking for a way? Then why don't you tell me Bush's foreign policy on the democratically elected Palestinian government? Did he not laud Palestinians for going to elections and then denouncing them for not picking a pro US government?

In what way is diplomacy counter productive to the process and US interests?
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Bush praised the day when the Palestinians held elections to start a government but then when Hamas was elected he criticized them and would not recognize them as well as stopped aid (or tried to). Typical American foreign policy...elect puppet governments or we will ignore you.

It is good though that the Palestinian government and Israel is talking and moving towards a peace process.

Don't forget, this is politics and everyone lie's, including the Almighty George W. Bush and his lackeys.
Yo Johnny---using your logic, the US would have supported Hitler because he 'won an election" Give me a break.
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22-Apr-2008, 09:19 PM #8
Jimmy Carter is what you loath most about democrats, LAN...he's got a huge heart, and isn't afraid to put it into causes he believes in, whether they are popular or not in the fatherland....

it is his vision....more power to him for following it.
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Jimmy Carter is what you loath most about democrats, LAN...he's got a huge heart, and isn't afraid to put it into causes he believes in, whether they are popular or not in the fatherland....

it is his vision....more power to him for following it.
No matter how much he fuggs over his country. Brilliant!
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No matter how much he fuggs over his country. Brilliant!
hey, it ain't my life, or yours....it's his....
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hey, it ain't my life, or yours....it's his....
Yeah but its our COUNTRY. Maybe you like getting screwed over by a has-been politician but I can do without it.
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Yeah but its our COUNTRY. Maybe you like getting screwed over by a has-been politician but I can do without it.
i dunno....i think you give him WAY to much influence outside his little world.....as you say, a has been politician
come to think of it, a never was politician.....that was always a part of his problem...to ingenuous to be the prez.
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i dunno....i think you give him WAY to much influence outside his little world.....as you say, a has been politician
come to think of it, a never was politician.....that was always a part of his problem...to ingenuous to be the prez.

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Carter’s Grave Wrong
A tragic misjudgment.

By Eric Cantor

[Peace initiatives], the so-called peaceful solutions, and the international conferences to resolve the Palestinian problem, are all contrary to the beliefs of the Islamic Resistance Movement…the Movement educates its members to adhere to its principles and to raise the banner of Allah over their homeland as they fight their Jihad. -- Article 13 of the Covenant of the Islamic Resistance Movement (Hamas)

Casting aside State Department warnings, former President Jimmy Carter recently met with top Hamas leader Khaled Meshaal in the Syrian capital of Damascus, where he has been given refuge. Mr. Carter, earnest but wrong-headed, said he was on a mission to get Meshaal to agree to peacefully resolve Hamas’s differences with Israel. He made a grave mistake.

It’s not merely that Carter’s foray was an exercise in futility. That would be bad enough. But Hamas official Mushir Masri jubilantly declared that the parley with Carter proved Hamas is a legitimate national liberation movement, and — breathtakingly — not even a terrorist group. “It confirms the failure of U.S. and European policies of ignoring Hamas,” he told thousands of Hamas supporters. “It confirms that all the countries that assume Hamas is a terrorist group should reconsider.”
Here>http://article.nationalreview.com/?q...FjMzliNDhhYzE=

Yeah no influence there. He just legitimized one of the worse terrorists groups in the world. Yeah no big friggin deal about Jimmy.
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But Hamas official Mushir Masri jubilantly declared that the parley with Carter proved Hamas is a legitimate national liberation movement, and — breathtakingly — not even a terrorist group.
but what does that mean, gb?.....now that hamas has carter's "credibility" to wear on its shirt sleeve, do you think they're going to change somehow?....become more brazen, because a has been prez and iconoclastic statesman gave them the thumbs up?.....become more respectable, because they want to live up to jimmy's vision for peace?


no.....they just got a few words in the media, and it disgusted some people.....

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but what does that mean, gb?.....now that hamas has carter's "credibility" to wear on its shirt sleeve, do you think they're going to change somehow?....become more brazen, because a has been prez and iconoclastic statesman gave them the thumbs up?.....become more respectable, because they want to live up to jimmy's vision for peace?


no.....they just got a few words in the media, and it disgusted some people.....

whoopie do
You're kidding right? You're not that naive are you? Because I know that you're not that stupid. Carter has now made them a LEGITIMATE government....a terrorist organization gets to demand to sit at the table with legitimate governments. It provides propaganda, it provides self-righteous indignation, it provides a platform for them to spread their hate. Did you read the introduction to the article?
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