[Mulderator]

Here the biography on the "Conservative Hacks!" who wrote the textbook

James Q. Wilson (born May 27, 1931) in Denver, Colorado is the Ronald Reagan professor of public policy at Pepperdine University in California, and a professor emeritus at UCLA. From 1961 to 1987 he was a professor of government at Harvard University. He has a Ph.D. (1959) and masters degree (1957) from the University of Chicago and an undergraduate degree from the University of Redlands (1952) where he was the national collegiate debate champion in 1951 and 1952.

He is a former Chairman of the White House Task Force on Crime (1966), of the National Advisor Commission on Drug Abuse Prevention (1972-73) and a member of the Attorney General's Task Force on Violent Crime (1981), the President's Foreign Intelligence Advisory Board (1985-90), and the President's Council on Bioethics. He is a former president of the American Political Science Association. He has served on the board of directors for the New England Electric System, Protection One, RAND, and State Farm Mutual Insurance.

He is the chairman of the Council of Academic Advisors of the American Enterprise Institute. Wilson is a member of the American Academy of Arts and Sciences and the American Philosophical Society, and a member of the International Council of the New York-based Human Rights Foundation.

He was awarded the Presidential Medal of Freedom by President George W. Bush in 2003.

Wilson describes himself as "more conservative than most academics but more liberal than the country as a whole."

John J. Di Iulio Jr. is a political scientist, Frederic Fox Leadership Professor of Politics, Religion, and Civil Society and Professor of Political Science at the University of Pennsylvania and served as the first director of the White House Office of Faith-Based and Community Initiatives under President George W. Bush from early 2001 to August 2001. He was the first senior Bush advisor to resign and was succeeded by Jim Towey. After resigning, he denounced the Bush administration in an interview with Esquire, calling them "Mayberry Machiavellis" who favored political decisions over policy-based ones.

DiIulio has authored numerous studies on crime, government, and the relationship between religion and public policy. He is also the co-author of the textbook American Government with James Q. Wilson, which was recently criticized for denying the greenhouse effect.

Dilulio is a Democrat! And of course UCLA and Harvard--(where Wilson is a professor) are two well known conservative instututions!

And here is a blurb on the book:

This book is currently used in both college and Advanced Placement high school courses across the United States. The book is roughly 780 pages and includes the U.S. Constitution, U.S. Bill of Rights, outcomes of various elections throughout American history, and famous court cases. It is accompanied by a companion website that features practice test questions and detailed explanations on each chapter.

My bet is the bit about the Supreme Court and prayer was written long before Bush ever got elected as the book is in its 10th Edition.

Like I said many time--you Moore-Ons will beleive anything you're fed as long as its critical of Bush. Your credibility is zero at this point.

(All above from Wikipedia).

[Mulderator]

Originally Posted by lotuseclat79

Hi Muldie,

There you go again Muldie, resorting to the lowest and weakest form of disagreement - i.e. name calling which is one rung down from ad hominem.

Yes, you really know how to show the mettle of your debating chops - better put your choppers into your mouth before you open it Muldie - the hot air is gettin'g to be too much for ya!

Talking about garbage thread - you da master-baiter there Muldie!

-- Tom

Why don't you read my last post and explain to me how the two authors are conservative and how it has anything to do with the Bush Administration? Tell me when the blurb the kid complained about was actually authoried (i.e., what year).

Destroying your credibility is like taking candy from a baby. Do you EVER post anything credible? Seriously?

[bassetman]

Originally Posted by pyritechips

Doesn't each school board have the final say in what is allowed in textbooks? Does the local education authority (State, City?) actually review and authorize each and every book?

What TX approves pretty much becomes the standard, because the Co. doesn't want 50 versions of a textbook.

[bassetman]

Originally Posted by LANMaster

Conservative bias in public school.

You must be joking.

Gee with your love of Israel, for someone to say anyone who doesn't accept Jesus is going to hell to not be offensive amazes me!

[Fyzbo]

Originally Posted by Bastiat

Oh Please! Its a massive right wing conspiracy manged by George Bush (you know the guy they claim is to dumb to tie his shoes but who supposedly can coordinate the actions of about 10,000 school districts)to control the minds of the American youth.

Originally Posted by Mulderator

This is another Lotuseclaptrap garbage thread. And also notice all the liberals chiming in accepting what the kids says at face value. Has anyone actually read the textbook? Does it actually say what he claims it says? Is it taken out of context? He claims the text book says the Supreme court won't allow prayer in school (which is correct by the way depending on how you define "allow prayer").

But this is typical of the Moore-Ons here--if its written down on the Internet and its anti-Bush, by God it just has to be accurate! Or I guess that would be "Not By God" its got to be accurate!

Originally Posted by Mulderator

Here the biography on the "Conservative Hacks!" who wrote the textbook





Dilulio is a Democrat! And of course UCLA and Harvard--(where Wilson is a professor) are two well known conservative instututions!

And here is a blurb on the book:



My bet is the bit about the Supreme Court and prayer was written long before Bush ever got elected as the book is in its 10th Edition.

Like I said many time--you Moore-Ons will beleive anything you're fed as long as its critical of Bush. Your credibility is zero at this point.

(All above from Wikipedia).

Originally Posted by Mulderator

Why don't you read my last post and explain to me how the two authors are conservative and how it has anything to do with the Bush Administration? Tell me when the blurb the kid complained about was actually authoried (i.e., what year).

Destroying your credibility is like taking candy from a baby. Do you EVER post anything credible? Seriously?

How did this thread become about Bush??? The article doesn't contain a Bush conspiracy and the only mention in the thread looks like a joke.

Mulderator, why are you going on and on about Bush?

[bill.aam]

Originally Posted by Fyzbo

How did this thread become about Bush??? The article doesn't contain a Bush conspiracy and the only mention in the thread looks like a joke.

Mulderator, why are you going on and on about Bush?

""Bias in High School Textbooks under Bush Administration""

I guess you missed the thread title.....

[LANMaster]

Originally Posted by Mulderator

Here the biography on the "Conservative Hacks!" who wrote the textbook





Dilulio is a Democrat! And of course UCLA and Harvard--(where Wilson is a professor) are two well known conservative instututions!

And here is a blurb on the book:



My bet is the bit about the Supreme Court and prayer was written long before Bush ever got elected as the book is in its 10th Edition.

Like I said many time--you Moore-Ons will beleive anything you're fed as long as its critical of Bush. Your credibility is zero at this point.

(All above from Wikipedia).

Haaaaa ha ha ha ha ha !!!!

OWNED!

[LANMaster]

Originally Posted by bassetman

Gee with your love of Israel, for someone to say anyone who doesn't accept Jesus is going to hell to not be offensive amazes me!

Way to twist and spin there, Mr Leftie.

Yes, I love Israel. I bless Israel.

Genesis 12:1-3
1 Now the LORD had said to Abram, Get you out of your country, and from your kindred, and from your father’s house, to a land that I will show you: (Israel)
2 And I will make of you a great nation, (Israel) and I will bless you, and make your name great; and you shall be a blessing:
3 And I will bless them that bless you, (Israel) and curse him that curses you (Israel): and in you shall all families of the earth be blessed.



I do not cast judgement and say that anyone is going to hell .... (and you know that)

Matthew 7:1-3
1 Judge not, that you be not judged.
2 For with what judgment you judge, you shall be judged: and with what measure you mete, it shall be measured to you again.
3 And why behold you the mote that is in your brother’s eye, but consider not the beam that is in your own eye?

I take the Bible at it's word. I take Jesus at His word;

John 14:1-7
1 Let not your heart be troubled: you believe in God, believe also in me.
2 In my Father’s house are many mansions: if it were not so, I would have told you. I go to prepare a place for you.
3 And if I go and prepare a place for you, I will come again, and receive you to myself; that where I am, there you may be also.
4 And where I go you know, and the way you know.
5 Thomas said to him, Lord, we know not where you go; and how can we know the way?
6 Jesus said to him, I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man comes to the Father, but by me.
7 If you had known me, you should have known my Father also: and from now on you know him, and have seen him.

You can pretend all you want that I am in some way casting judgement, but I am not.

It is not my place to determine anyone's salvation. That's God's job, not mine.

One might think that you have enough class not to deliberately take someone else out of context. But then again, you are a leftie.

[iltos]

a brief history of this thread

tom posts an article about bias....conservative bias in this instance

several people read the article, and find it interesting...especially the kid

mulder focuses on the title of the thread (which was a mistake, imo, in terms of promoting a real discussion about this, at least), and condemns the entire article, and anybody who would find it interesting

he makes some valid points, too, but they get lost in the lather he works up over another anti-bush thread

the thread becomes polarized along party lines, and quickly loses significance.

[Mulderator]

Originally Posted by iltos

the thread becomes polarized along party lines, and quickly loses
significance.

Wrong--the thread was polarized by the title (which the thread started does on just about EVERY thread he starts most of which I debunk very easily), and the article was completely misleading. You all went on about how great this kid is when in fact, he's nothing more than a political hack--my bet is his parents have promoted it. And that's typical of liberals--promote destruction, rebellion and dissention for the sake of it rather than the sake of the truth. Does the truth mean anything to you or do you prefer to remain blissfully ignorant?

[linskyjack]

Originally Posted by Mulderator

Here the biography on the "Conservative Hacks!" who wrote the textbook





Dilulio is a Democrat! And of course UCLA and Harvard--(where Wilson is a professor) are two well known conservative instututions!

And here is a blurb on the book:



My bet is the bit about the Supreme Court and prayer was written long before Bush ever got elected as the book is in its 10th Edition.

Like I said many time--you Moore-Ons will beleive anything you're fed as long as its critical of Bush. Your credibility is zero at this point.

(All above from Wikipedia).

Mulder you moron---James Q Wilson is a right wing ideologue and President of an extreme right wing think tank. Do your homework!

[Mulderator]

Originally Posted by linskyjack

Mulder you moron---James Q Wilson is a right wing ideologue and President of an extreme right wing think tank. Do your homework!

Not true (his resume is about as impressive as it gets), but even it it is, the co-author is a DEMOCRAT who denounced the Bush Administration, you MOORE-ON.

[Mulderator]

BTW--the kid did NOT write that article on his own--he had plenty of help--my bet is one of his parents (if not both) are lawyers or he had a lawyer edit it because there is no way a 12 grader knows would write an article with as much savvy legal understanding as he appears to have.

[Mulderator]

Originally Posted by linskyjack

Mulder you moron---James Q Wilson is a right wing ideologue and President of an extreme right wing think tank. Do your homework!

You mean in his position with the "American Academy of Arts and Sciences and the American Philosophical Society, and a member of the International Council of the New York-based Human Rights Foundation."

Yes--those are real right wing institutions.

Linksy--why post here--you have zero credibility--the only people that take you seriously are the left wing Moore-ons--everyone else thinks you're an idiot.

[iltos]

Originally Posted by Mulderator

Wrong--the thread was polarized by the title (which the thread started does on just about EVERY thread he starts most of which I debunk very easily), and the article was completely misleading. You all went on about how great this kid is when in fact, he's nothing more than a political hack--my bet is his parents have promoted it.

now you're doing what you accuse everyone else of doing...drawing conclusions without a shred of evidence.

but, since you're the one doing it, that makes it ok, i assume?
stick with your own evidence, mulder....the co-author is a democrat....THAT, at least, is a good starting point re: the issue of bias.