[Gabriel]

Originally Posted by Farmgirl22

Strictly rhetorical question Gabriel...sorry for the confusion.

I haven't learned to think rhetorically yet

[poochee]

Originally Posted by Gabriel

I haven't learned to think rhetorically yet

It depends on who is asking the question. Some are just trying to get info to start a fight. And Farmgirl, I am not talking about you!!

[Leah of FarAway]

When I first saw the news on TV I was absolutely speechless.
I simply cannot comprehend how someone could do such a thing to another human being, not to mention to his own daughter. How on Earth could he sleep soundly at night…

Why do we even need monster films with mummies, vampires and zombies -- the human monster is so much scarier.

[Leah of FarAway]

Originally Posted by Farmgirl22

Essentially. Do you blame her? That must have been an extremely horrifying experience...like Donna said--sometimes I'm ashamed to be a part of the human race...especially when we claim to be oh so civilized...

Living in a “civilized world” doesn’t make one automatically civilized. -shakes head-

[poochee]

Originally Posted by Leah of FarAway

When I first saw the news on TV I was absolutely speechless.
I simply cannot comprehend how someone could do such a thing to another human being, not to mention to his own daughter. How on Earth could he sleep soundly at night…

Why do we even need monster films with mummies, vampires and zombies -- the human monster is so much scarier.

There are evil people in this world.

[Leah of FarAway]

Originally Posted by poochee

There are evil people in this world.

Yes, sadly, there are

[poochee]

updated 1 hour, 22 minutes ago
DNA: Sex captor fathered daughter's children
CNN's Phil Black, Nadine Schmidt and Eileen Hsieh contributed to this story.

Story Highlights
DNA confirms Austrian man fathered 6 children with his daughter
Josef Fritzl kept daughter imprisoned under home for 24 years, police say
Fritzl, who appeared in court Tuesday, has admitted guilt and faces 15 years
Only 15 years!!
Teenaged daughter is induced coma, two sons also receiving medical treatment

AMSTETTEN, Austria (CNN) -- DNA tests have confirmed that Josef Fritzl fathered six children with his daughter, whom he kept imprisoned under his home for 24 years, police in Austria said Tuesday.

Josef Fritzl appeared in court after admitting raping his daughter and fathering her seven children.

Excerpt from: http://www.cnn.com/2008/WORLD/europe...lar/index.html

[Farmgirl22]

Originally Posted by poochee

updated 1 hour, 22 minutes ago
DNA: Sex captor fathered daughter's children
CNN's Phil Black, Nadine Schmidt and Eileen Hsieh contributed to this story.

Story Highlights
DNA confirms Austrian man fathered 6 children with his daughter
Josef Fritzl kept daughter imprisoned under home for 24 years, police say
Fritzl, who appeared in court Tuesday, has admitted guilt and faces 15 years
Only 15 years!!
Teenaged daughter is induced coma, two sons also receiving medical treatment

AMSTETTEN, Austria (CNN) -- DNA tests have confirmed that Josef Fritzl fathered six children with his daughter, whom he kept imprisoned under his home for 24 years, police in Austria said Tuesday.

Josef Fritzl appeared in court after admitting raping his daughter and fathering her seven children.

Excerpt from: http://www.cnn.com/2008/WORLD/europe...lar/index.html

I can't say that I'm surprised, but I also can't say that I didn't have hopes that I would be surprised. Nearly makes me want to cry...

He deserves more than 15 years though--I think he deserves every bit of the 24(?) years of time that he had her locked up. Disgusting pig!

I feel so bad for the kids--for the woman too, but those kids don't really have much of a chance from the sounds of things.

[poochee]

Originally Posted by Farmgirl22

I can't say that I'm surprised, but I also can't say that I didn't have hopes that I would be surprised. Nearly makes me want to cry...

He deserves more than 15 years though--I think he deserves every bit of the 24(?) years of time that he had her locked up. Disgusting pig!

I feel so bad for the kids--for the woman too, but those kids don't really have much of a chance from the sounds of things.

Very sad case.

[Nekochanpurr]

Disgusting. He locked her up longer than what he is getting!!

[Leah of FarAway]

I’ve been following this in the German TV and it is said that Josef F. shows absolute no sign of regret. And not just that, the psychiatrist says that he actually believes that he was doing the right thing, that he was protecting his daughter…

[Leah of FarAway]

Originally Posted by Farmgirl22

I feel so bad for the kids--for the woman too, but those kids don't really have much of a chance from the sounds of things.

Those children, they will never be healthy. Imagine how very weak their immune system is. Most likely they’ll be on medication all their life… and the simplest illness, a cold, or and allergy could mean their death…

[Farmgirl22]

Originally Posted by Leah of FarAway

I’ve been following this in the German TV and it is said that Josef F. shows absolute no sign of regret. And not just that, the psychiatrist says that he actually believes that he was doing the right thing, that he was protecting his daughter…

Protecting her from what? Men who might treat her like he did??? Because it's somehow better to treat her like that, as opposed to.....???

If he shows no remorse, then he DEFINITELY deserves a longer sentence. Or maybe even the death penalty--I think this crime is heinous enough to warrant that (I'm sure someone will disagree)....he ruined NOT ONLY his daughters life, but the lives of her children and his wife in an unacceptable and unchangeable way.

[poochee]

Put him in prison in the general population.

[Leah of FarAway]

Originally Posted by Farmgirl22

Protecting her from what? Men who might treat her like he did??? Because it's somehow better to treat her like that, as opposed to.....???

He projected his violent tendency onto the world. Therefore, he wanted to protect his daughter form the “big bad world” and form herself too.

He forced her to write a goodbye letter -- I don’t know if it was in the letter, but the wife of Josef F. thought that her daughter had joined a sect and was doing drugs.

Also allegedly he told his daughter and the three children that it was no use trying to escape, and that if something happens to him no one could find them and that some gas will be released in the cellar so they will die either way