[ekim68]

Originally Posted by wordsmith

unfortuately I don't think he cares one bit

I don't think he cares, too. All of this nonsense of wealth building due to speculation and side-street financial deals has been stretched to the limit, IMO...At least he can be the 'Model' of modern day gambling...And, at least, he was outed...

[wacor]

Originally Posted by ekim68

I don't think he cares, too. All of this nonsense of wealth building due to speculation and side-street financial deals has been stretched to the limit, IMO...At least he can be the 'Model' of modern day gambling...And, at least, he was outed...

actually you should be happy he failed. a lot of rich elites got screwed out of a ton of money

too bad about the non profits but then we need to all share in the suffering

[ekim68]

Originally Posted by wacor

actually you should be happy he failed. a lot of rich elites got screwed out of a ton of money

Not sure why you think I should be happy...I'm for the commons, that is, we're all in this together, eh? Thus, my egalitarian stance...I think we're all equal, despite wealth differences...

[wacor]

Originally Posted by ekim68

Not sure why you think I should be happy...I'm for the commons, that is, we're all in this together, eh? Thus, my egalitarian stance...I think we're all equal, despite wealth differences...

But we are not equal

Never have been and never will be.

It is a great ideal which I subscribe to but we can only do so much to get there. And the path to take is where we will always disagree.

[ekim68]

Originally Posted by wacor

But we are not equal

Never have been and never will be.

It is a great ideal which I subscribe to but we can only do so much to get there. And the path to take is where we will always disagree.

Ok, but at least we could be closer...One step at a time... The idea that over 6 billion people on this small earth of ours can get along at all is amazing...And, this is the only earth. So, what do we make of it?

[xico]

The Politics of An Israeli Extermination Campaign

Backers, Apologists and Arms Suppliers
By James Petras

Israel's totalitarian vision is driven by the practice of a permanent purge of Arab Palestine informed by Zionism, an ethno-racist ideology, promulgated by the Jewish state and justified, enforced and pursued by its organized backers in the United States.
http://www.informationclearinghouse....ticle21613.htm

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Israel Has No Intention of Granting a Palestinian State

If Hamas Did Not Exist
By JENNIFER LOEWENSTEIN

Let us get one thing perfectly straight. If the wholesale mutilation and degradation of the Gaza Strip is going to continue; - if the cowardly, obsequious and supine Arab States are going to stand by watching their brethren get slaughtered by the hour while the world's bullying Superpower eyes them threateningly from Washington lest they say something a little to their disliking; then let us at least tell the truth why this hell on earth is taking place.
http://www.informationclearinghouse....ticle21611.htm

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Norman Finkelstein: Israel Seeking Arab Obeisance

By Press TV

Israel wants to reestablish what it calls its deterrence capacity. That is a technical term that the Israelis use. It basically means to restore the fear of Israel among the Arab states in the region.
http://www.informationclearinghouse....ticle21602.htm

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The Real Goal of the Slaughter in Gaza
By Jonathan Cook

Hamas cannot be defeated, so it must be brought to heel.
http://www.informationclearinghouse....ticle21603.htm

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We Must Adjust our Distorted Image of Hamas

By William Sieghart

Gaza is a secular society where people listen to pop music, watch TV and many women walk the streets unveiled.
http://www.informationclearinghouse....ticle21614.htm

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More Oddities in the U.S. "Debate" over Israel/Gaza
By Glenn Greenwald

Is there any other position, besides Israel, where (a) a party's voters overwhelmingly embrace one position (Israel should not have attacked Gaza) but (b) that party's leadership unanimously embraces the exact opposite position (Israel was absolutely right to attack Gaza and the U.S. must support Israel unequivocally)?
http://www.informationclearinghouse....ticle21601.htm

[wacor]

Originally Posted by ekim68

Ok, but at least we could be closer...One step at a time... The idea that over 6 billion people on this small earth of ours can get along at all is amazing...And, this is the only earth. So, what do we make of it?

That is a concept which flies in the face of reality though I am afraid.

Humans are all about survival of the fittest. As I have said before I think that is hard wired into us. That does not mean I like it but there will always be nuts like Sadaam and Hitler. Now we are the Hitler for some. I don't subscribe to that but face it. The strongest and smartest control things. It sucks but I do not see that changing unless we are made into robots.

[ekim68]

Unfortunately you disregard the overall damage to the world environment...Eventually, it will come back to haunt the human race...There are limits...

[xico]

Originally Posted by ekim68

Ok, but at least we could be closer...One step at a time... The idea that over 6 billion people on this small earth of ours can get along at all is amazing...And, this is the only earth. So, what do we make of it?

We're supposed to be equal under the eye of the law. We're supposed to have equal rights, civil and human.

For the sake of legality, yes there are 6 billion people; but some of those people are not quite human, they lack what we call conscience. There's a neat book called When Snakes Wear Suits: when psychopaths go to work. There's a list in the makeup of a true psychopath. Some people have one or two points. Others may have 8, 9 or 10.
Ted Bundy is a good example of a pure psychopath. He spent time figuring out how to get young women to hop in his car with him. And he had absolutely no conscience.

Do you think Rummy, Cheney or Bush have a conscience? Do the guys who lure people into becoming suicide bombers have a conscience? I don't think so.

[ekim68]

Originally Posted by xico

Do you think Rummy, Cheney or Bush have a conscience? Do the guys who lure people into becoming suicide bombers have a conscience? I don't think so.

No they don't...Indoctrination is a tough thing to avoid...

[wacor]

Originally Posted by ekim68

Unfortunately you disregard the overall damage to the world environment...Eventually, it will come back to haunt the human race...There are limits...

If we did not have the plague, did not have wars, did not have aids do you think we could support the numbers on the planet??

The human race seems to be thriving pretty well actually. We have nearly doubled the life expectancy in the last 150 years if I am not mistaken.

[xico]

Originally Posted by wacor

If we did not have the plague, did not have wars, did not have aids do you think we could support the numbers on the planet??

The human race seems to be thriving pretty well actually. We have nearly doubled the life expectancy in the last 150 years if I am not mistaken.

In the industrialized countries we may have increased longevity for the wealthy and the middle class--through education and bourgeoise living conditions. LOL Go south of the boarder or go to Haiti or Africa and tell me how we're thriving pretty well. There's several billion people living on less than 2 dollars a day, and some on a dollar.

Glad you deleted the survival of the fittest. If anything, it's the survival of the luckiest. And your luck depends upon your personal power. Guys survive in war through luck.
If your number is up, it's up.

[ekim68]

Police call new pot law unenforceable

BOSTON, Jan. 3 (UPI) -- Some police chiefs in Massachusetts say a state law decriminalizing possession of small amounts of marijuana is unenforceable.

The law which took effect Friday, calls for police to issue $100 civil citations for possession of an ounce or less, The Boston Globe reported Saturday. The old law made possession of even small amounts punishable by up to six months in jail and a fine of up to $500.

Dozens of police chiefs say their officers aren't ticketing people they see smoking marijuana because they have no way of establishing their identity, said John M. Collins, general counsel for the Massachusetts Chiefs of Police Association.

Previously, officers could threaten people with arrest to force them to show identification. Now they can't force marijuana smokers to show IDs. And they say there is no penalty if a smoker gives a fake name.

http://www.upi.com/Top_News/2009/01/...0791231003912/

[wacor]

Originally Posted by ekim68

Police call new pot law unenforceable

BOSTON, Jan. 3 (UPI) -- Some police chiefs in Massachusetts say a state law decriminalizing possession of small amounts of marijuana is unenforceable.

The law which took effect Friday, calls for police to issue $100 civil citations for possession of an ounce or less, The Boston Globe reported Saturday. The old law made possession of even small amounts punishable by up to six months in jail and a fine of up to $500.

Dozens of police chiefs say their officers aren't ticketing people they see smoking marijuana because they have no way of establishing their identity, said John M. Collins, general counsel for the Massachusetts Chiefs of Police Association.

Previously, officers could threaten people with arrest to force them to show identification. Now they can't force marijuana smokers to show IDs. And they say there is no penalty if a smoker gives a fake name.

http://www.upi.com/Top_News/2009/01/...0791231003912/

I bet this has Stoner shaking in his boots

There is an annual pot fest in Ann Arbor which is where the University of Michigan is located. Kind of Moscow west when it comes to leftist ideals. But anyway they let people smoke and don't arrest on this particular day.

0h the humanity

[ekim68]

Originally Posted by wacor

I bet this has Stoner shaking in his boots

There is an annual pot fest in Ann Arbor which is where the University of Michigan is located. Kind of Moscow west when it comes to leftist ideals. But anyway they let people smoke and don't arrest on this particular day.

0h the humanity

Of course, the cops are outnumbered...