[Fidelista]

Sometimes in violent situations , with juices flowing and a perceived threat , things get out of hand . ANYBODY with any expeirence with violence knows this.
This is why I often take the Police side in such matters . Most of time , critical people have no idea of the threats and how cops respond to them . I give great leeway.
That said , no excuse for these cops , they should be fired .
They are not above the law , and we don't hire them to administer justice as they see fit.
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lorelai

"Move into that neighborhood and live there for a year before you judge those cops from your insulated ivory towers."

I don't live in "ivory tower" , have engaged in violence and been on receiving end, jailed ect ,but I do expect professionalism from Law enforcement .
I have read many of your posts , and you don't fool me , it not just about crime with you . I will let it go at that. >f

[lorelai]

Inner city black gun thugs barely qualify as "civilians", as far as I'm concerned. I deal with people of this "pimpin/hustlin" mentality every day, and cops are the only thing keeping civilization in many cities from spiraling into chaos-the kind we saw in Paris last year, in the ghettoes in the 60's riots, etc.

[wacor]

when will the cops ever learn. shoot first and answer questions later. beating people up will get you nowhere.

[johnnyburst79]

Originally Posted by lorelai

Inner city black gun thugs barely qualify as "civilians", as far as I'm concerned. I deal with people of this "pimpin/hustlin" mentality every day, and cops are the only thing keeping civilization in many cities from spiraling into chaos-the kind we saw in Paris last year, in the ghettoes in the 60's riots, etc.

As far as you're concerned. Nonetheless, the law does not see a distinction. It applies the same to "inner city black gun thugs" as it does to merry Mary homemaker in upscale white-bred suburbia. Every individual should be treated the exact same under the law and while you don't see it that way, there is a reason you are not a police officer or lawmaker.

While 13 cops have been taken off the streets, I wonder what the outrage would have been if three white kids were beaten by black cops like that? I seriously doubt you would call them "inner city gun thugs"....

Cops do not keep "inner city black gun thugs" from tearing down civilization. If there were no cops, Mary Suburbia's teens would be breaking and entering, stealing, and causing mayhem. Crime is, most unfortunately, a way of life for some and even worse, a passion for others. Crime happens to all parts of society. Poverty and racism ensures crime will continue in the poorest neighborhoods where few see any chance of leaving that world behind.

[NICK G]

Not all cops use these tactics. Not all cops are brutal. Not all cops need to be labeled.
But, watch "COPS" or any similar show and see how many times unnecessary force is
being used when they know the cameras are rolling. It's really incredible at times.
If this happens when they are fully aware the cameras are on, what happens when it
is all private and unobserved? Throwing a handcuffed person head first onto the hood of
a car is not cool. OK, so you have to chase someone and they give up by lying on the
ground with their hands outstretched and face down. There is no reason to jump on
their back with both knees and bend their arms back to almost a breaking point.
Don't get chased in my county by the Escambia County Sheriff Dept, stop your car in
the middle of the street and make any move that remotely resembles an act of resistance
of any type, like reaching for your wallet, for 12-15 guys will shoot into the car until all
ammunition is expired and, most likely, so is the suspect. Happens quite often here.
"Kill Them All, Let God Sort Them Out!" Protection like that I don't need.
(Tough job dealing with the best of the best and then the scum of the earth.
BTW, I can relate some of this to my own experiences.)

[kaaos]

Originally Posted by lorelai

Inner city black gun thugs barely qualify as "civilians", as far as I'm concerned. I deal with people of this "pimpin/hustlin" mentality every day, and cops are the only thing keeping civilization in many cities from spiraling into chaos-the kind we saw in Paris last year, in the ghettoes in the 60's riots, etc.

Hiel Lorelai!!

[lorelai]

Crime happens to all parts of society. Poverty and racism ensures crime will continue in the poorest neighborhoods where few see any chance of leaving that world behind.

hin
Hey, in Filly as in other US cities shootings and killings happen with alarming regularity in black and latino areas, unlike the white areas. In my city, there are dozens of deadly black and latino gangs, and not a SINGLE white street gang. Why do you think that is?

[linskyjack]

Why don't you tell us!

[kaaos]

Originally Posted by lorelai

Crime happens to all parts of society. Poverty and racism ensures crime will continue in the poorest neighborhoods where few see any chance of leaving that world behind.

hin
Hey, in Filly as in other US cities shootings and killings happen with alarming regularity in black and latino areas, unlike the white areas. In my city, there are dozens of deadly black and latino gangs, and not a SINGLE white street gang. Why do you think that is?

where do you live? because here in chicago we have white people in gangs

[linskyjack]

This Lorelai is hardcore racist--Check out some of his other posts.

[poochee]

Originally Posted by lorelai

Crime happens to all parts of society. Poverty and racism ensures crime will continue in the poorest neighborhoods where few see any chance of leaving that world behind.

hin
Hey, in Filly as in other US cities shootings and killings happen with alarming regularity in black and latino areas, unlike the white areas. In my city, there are dozens of deadly black and latino gangs, and not a SINGLE white street gang. Why do you think that is?

There are White, Black, Latino, Asian, etc. gangs.

[NICK G]

Crypt, Blood - Republican, Democrat - is There a Difference?
Yeah, there are colored (rainbow) gangs everywhere. Some need a good head knockin'.

[poochee]

updated 5:51 p.m. EDT, Mon May 19, 2008
Mayor: Officers in taped beating will be fired

Story Highlights
4 officers to be fired, 3 will be disciplined, supervising sergeant demoted
City officials: Beatings were inexcusable but had nothing to do with race
Suspect's mother says she, attorney not allowed to see suspect after his arrest
Video shows police officers punching, kicking suspects, hitting them with batons

PHILADELPHIA, Pennsylvania (CNN) -- Four Philadelphia police officers will be fired, three others will be disciplined and a supervising sergeant will be demoted because of the violent beating of three suspects caught after a shooting, the city's mayor and police commissioner said Monday.

The video footage shows the officers kicking, punching and striking the suspects with batons while the men lie restrained on the ground.

Excerpts from: http://www.cnn.com/2008/CRIME/05/19/...ing/index.html

[Fidelista]

Originally Posted by kaaos

where do you live? because here in chicago we have white people in gangs

Wished I knew where he lived , I would steal his car ! . "We" get that way sometimes , can't be helped ! . >f

[Sarge]

Originally Posted by lorelai

Crime happens to all parts of society. Poverty and racism ensures crime will continue in the poorest neighborhoods where few see any chance of leaving that world behind.

hin
Hey, in Filly as in other US cities shootings and killings happen with alarming regularity in black and latino areas, unlike the white areas. In my city, there are dozens of deadly black and latino gangs, and not a SINGLE white street gang. Why do you think that is?

Nazi Low Riders
Origins: First organized as a gang in the early to mid-1970s among inmates housed by the California Youth Authority, the state agency responsible for the incarceration and parole supervision of juvenile and young adult offenders.
Ideology: White supremacy
Location: Primarily Southern California, also scattered among other states, including Arizona, Colorado, Florida, Illinois
Criminal activity : Narcotics trafficking, murder, assault
Affiliation: Aryan Brotherhood, various California-based skinhead gangs
Tattoos: Swastikas, SS lighting bolts, "NLR"
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Aryan Brotherhood of Texas
Gender Makeup: Male
Racial Makeup: White
Origins: Originated in 1967 in the San Quentin State Prison, California Department of Corrections.

Aryan Circle
Gender Makeup: Male
Racial Makeup: White
Origin:
Characteristics: Members display many white supremacist, neo-nazi characteristics and ideology, but often state their goals as simply "getting high and getting over," or making their stay in the prison as comfortable as possible.

Texas Mafia
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Chicago Gaylords
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The Chicago Gaylords, also known as the Almighty Gaylords, is the oldest White Chicago street gang. It originated in the neighborhood of Grand and Noble. The original president of the Gaylords selected the name after reading about the Gaylords of France in the public library. They are a part of the People Nation alliance.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Almighty_Gaylords


There are plenty more of them to include the mafia...oh wait a second, they dont really exist.