[kaaos]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WXZbI...d.php?t=162152

[Ciberblade]

There's so many logical fallacies in that clip...I don't know if I have the time to name them all.

Basically....McCain has a supporter who has taken a stance that cannot be substantiated. This is an attempt to place those views and words onto McCain. Gotta love that cherry picking

[johnnyburst79]

It would be one thing if McCain had a supporter with whom he disagreed with on a basis of substance and views. It would be another if he courted such people and touted how they are a moral compass.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g5z2m_7Q4Yo

[Ciberblade]

It's much the same.

Ah....more cherry picking I see.

[johnnyburst79]

No cherry picking. I just searched and found that video right away. But the bottom line is, he doesn't distance himself from extreme radicals within Christianity, instead embracing them.

[kaaos]

sure it is

Originally Posted by Ciberblade

There's so many logical fallacies in that clip...I don't know if I have the time to name them all.

Basically....McCain has a supporter who has taken a stance that cannot be substantiated. This is an attempt to place those views and words onto McCain. Gotta love that cherry picking

How is this any less offensive than rev wrights comments?
How is it any different from people placing those views on obama?

[Stoner]

Originally Posted by johnnyburst79

No cherry picking. I just searched and found that video right away. But the bottom line is, he doesn't distance himself from extreme radicals within Christianity, instead embracing them.

What bottom line?
Your video doesn't back your claim.

[Ciberblade]

Originally Posted by johnnyburst79

No cherry picking. I just searched and found that video right away. But the bottom line is, he doesn't distance himself from extreme radicals within Christianity, instead embracing them.

The video is cherry picking!!! All you get is part of his answers....to unknown questions...completely outside ANY context. And you expect that to support a claim?

[Stoner]

Originally Posted by Ciberblade

It's much the same.

Ah....more cherry picking I see.

Cherry picking, quote mining, contextual issues............that's the arena of internet videos since Loose Change became the 'gold standard' of propaganda documentaries.

[kaaos]

Originally Posted by Stoner

Cherry picking, quote mining, contextual issues............that's the arena of internet videos since Loose Change became the 'gold standard' of propaganda documentaries.

isn't that rev wright's main issue. his sermon was taken out of context by the media?

so again i say how is this different from the wright/obama issue?

[Stoner]

Originally Posted by kaaos

isn't that rev wright's main issue. his sermon was taken out of context by the media?

so again i say how is this different from the wright/obama issue?

So you think it's your right to go around knowingly presenting falsehoods because other falsehoods are posted?

This thread has the Jack Stone official guano seal of approval.

[kaaos]

Originally Posted by Stoner

So you think it's your right to go around knowingly presenting falsehoods because other falsehoods are posted?

This thread has the Jack Stone official guano seal of approval.

i want to know where the outrage is. where is the media coverage? pastorbaiting seems to be the weapon of choice

[Stoner]

Originally Posted by kaaos

i want to know where the outrage is. where is the media coverage? pastorbaiting seems to be the weapon of choice

Looks to me like you got hammered on your original claim and now you are changing directions.

If all you want is the chatter of the lefties you can find many in these google searches:
( enjoy )
http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q...=Google+Search
or
http://news.google.com/news?hl=en&q=...-8&sa=N&tab=wn


Myself....I made no comment about Obama/Wright at this forum or any other.


It's too late, the votes are in........this thread is officially 'guano' .........

[LANMaster]

Islam is a choice, not a skin color.
Those who seek to destroy the USA are enemies of this country.
While there are moderate Muslims who do not apply portions of their faith which demand the conversion and enslavement of infidels, one cannot separate the entirety of the written doctrine from the professor of the faith.

Parsley's a kook, don't get me wrong. I do not believe that he accurately represents the Christian faith, as I do not see him injecting grace or mercy, or love in any of those soundbytes. And nowhere in my Bible do I read that Christians should rise up and defeat Islam. That's God's job, and will become a reality during the tribulation without any help from Parsley or his army of misinformed robots.

But from a purely political perspective, Parsley is actually correct, where Jeremiah Wright is an overtly racist bigot, and a liar.

This shouldn't hit McCain much.

[bassetman]

Originally Posted by LANMaster

Islam is a choice, not a skin color.
Those who seek to destroy the USA are enemies of this country.
While there are moderate Muslims who do not apply portions of their faith which demand the conversion and enslavement of infidels, one cannot separate the entirety of the written doctrine from the professor of the faith.

Parsley's a kook, don't get me wrong. I do not believe that he accurately represents the Christian faith, as I do not see him injecting grace or mercy, or love in any of those soundbytes. And nowhere in my Bible do I read that Christians should rise up and defeat Islam. That's God's job, and will become a reality during the tribulation without any help from Parsley or his army of misinformed robots.

But from a purely political perspective, Parsley is actually correct, where Jeremiah Wright is an overtly racist bigot, and a liar.

This shouldn't hit McCain much.

You believe the US was founded in part to destroy Islam?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WXZbI...d.php?t=162152