[trekguy]

Originally Posted by LANMaster

However, Obama does wish to repeal the 2nd Amendment.
Oh sure, he won't say it that way, but in affect, he wants to outlaw gun ownership in America.

Just wondering... do you ever feel guilty when you post outright lies?

http://www.barackobama.com/issues/additional/#sportsmen

PROTECTING GUN RIGHTS
Respect the Second Amendment: Millions of hunters own and use guns each year. Millions more participate
in a variety of shooting sports such as sporting clays, skeet, target and trap shooting that may not necessarily
involve hunting. As a former constitutional law professor, Barack Obama believes the Second Amendment
creates an individual right, and he greatly respects the constitutional rights of Americans to bear arms. He will
protect the rights of hunters and other law-abiding Americans to purchase, own, transport, and use guns for the
purposes of hunting and target shooting. He also believes that the right is subject to reasonable and
commonsense regulation.

[trekguy]

Originally Posted by johnnyburst

I just saw that Barack wants to ban semi-automatics. That angers me more than anything as semi-automatics are the majority of firearms sold.

Angers you? Do you think he, himself, can make that happen?

Last Saturday afternoon, I purchased a Rossi .223 with a 3x-9x scope. It's a break-open single shot. My son was lobbying hard for the semi-automatic .22. He's 13, and the thought of him being able to fire off 15 rounds as quick as he could pull the trigger was a little un-nerving to me. Of course, he said he would NEVER do that... but I know better. I did it with my Nylon 66 when I was that age. If you're target shooting, or even hunting, there is really no need for semi-auto firing. So, I can see where Obama is coming from on the semi-auto issue... even if I may not completely agree with him. It's a moot point anyway... Obama's opinion on the issue is not going to change anything... but he does have a right to have an opinion, just like we all do. I respect the fact that he's willing to lay it out there, even if it's not popular.

If Barack does win, I'll be glad to be out of the country.

I have to say that I am surprised by that comment. Because of one opinion, on one issue...???...

[Littlefield]

Here’s how the Chicago Tribune put it: “Obama said he opposed allowing ordinary citizens to carry concealed weapons and that a federal law banning concealed carried weapons except for law enforcement is needed.” “Common sense gun safety” and the Second Amendment? Like the draconian proposals funded to the tune of $18,000,000 by the rabidly anti-gun Joyce Foundation while Obama was an activist member of its board of directors.
Obama’s alleged support of the Second Amendment is utterly cynical and false. Barack Obama is not for the Right to Keep and Bear Arms; he`s out to destroy it.''
http://www.nrapvf.org/News/Article.aspx?ID=286

[Sarge]

This is a link to the newest bill. i didnt read anything in there about weapons (guns).
http://thomas.loc.gov/cgi-bin/query/.../~c110wOPb7T::

Originally Posted by trekguy

Last Saturday afternoon, I purchased a Rossi .223 with a 3x-9x scope. It's a break-open single shot. My son was lobbying hard for the semi-automatic .22. He's 13, and the thought of him being able to fire off 15 rounds as quick as he could pull the trigger was a little un-nerving to me. Of course, he said he would NEVER do that... but I know better. I did it with my Nylon 66 when I was that age. If you're target shooting, or even hunting, there is really no need for semi-auto firing. So, I can see where Obama is coming from on the semi-auto issue... even if I may not completely agree with him. It's a moot point anyway... Obama's opinion on the issue is not going to change anything... but he does have a right to have an opinion, just like we all do. I respect the fact that he's willing to lay it out there, even if it's not popular.

With the proper training and handling of the weapon, it really shouldnt matter how many rounds he can fire down range regardless if its a semi-auto .22 or a browing .50 cal. machine gun. The important issue is safety but as all gun owners know...a mistake can happen with either one of these weapons. I think the real issue is the RIGHT to ownership. If I purchase a weapon (gun) legally, it shouldnt matter what kind of gun I purchase as long as its registered and I have the proper training and safety precautions in place.

[bomb #21]

Originally Posted by johnnyburst

This should work Thanks.

http://thomas.loc.gov/cgi-bin/query/z?c110:S.2433:

I just saw that Barack wants to ban semi-automatics. That angers me more than anything as semi-automatics are the majority of firearms sold. If Barack does win, I'll be glad to be out of the country.

Are you moving to the Czech Republic or is that off now?

[Farmgirl22]

Originally Posted by bassetman

Thanks for sharing your secret inside information. However even if he did want to do that it would also take the House, the Senate and the majority of the states to approve it!

I find it funny that you say that, when you claim that GW did all sorts of damage while the Congress was forced to sit on their thumbs.

NOTE: I am NOT trying to make this thread about GW, and DON'T care to hear any other blathering about him...I was merely pointing out to Basset that he was contradicting himself. Thank you.

Originally Posted by LANMaster

If firearms are made illegal, only the criminals will have them.

This is very true--because criminals don't care about what's legal and what isn't...if they did, they wouldn't be criminals.

Although, I do suspect that there might be a few citizens of your fine state that would hold onto their guns regardless of legality as well....

Originally Posted by Wino

If Obama wins, this will be the new White House.

Love that, where did you find that pic?

Originally Posted by Wino

Our new flag under Obama. I can imagine the winger heads exploding while wearing the new lapel pin.

Exploding? I'd probably bust out laughing every time I saw someone wearing one, and definitely wouldn't wear one myself....but to each their own????

Originally Posted by bill.aam

Will he give every American one of these too??





I only like white meat...

Me too...extra crispy chicken strips all the way baby!!

Originally Posted by Sarge

This is a link to the newest bill. i didnt read anything in there about weapons (guns).
http://thomas.loc.gov/cgi-bin/query/.../~c110wOPb7T::


With the proper training and handling of the weapon, it really shouldnt matter how many rounds he can fire down range regardless if its a semi-auto .22 or a browing .50 cal. machine gun. The important issue is safety but as all gun owners know...a mistake can happen with either one of these weapons. I think the real issue is the RIGHT to ownership. If I purchase a weapon (gun) legally, it shouldnt matter what kind of gun I purchase as long as its registered and I have the proper training and safety precautions in place.

Exactly...I'm going to have to pull a Poochee here and do this:

[Laura87]

Repeal the 2nd amendment? No can do - checks and balances y'all. Women's right to vote next? think not. He can want what he wants, if he even wants that. Won't happen.

[bassetman]

Originally Posted by Laura87

Repeal the 2nd amendment? No can do - checks and balances y'all. Women's right to vote next? think not. He can want what he wants, if he even wants that. Won't happen.

Happy BD Laura! Wingers seem think a president can do whatever he wants, sans congress (well I guess Bush has), but they can't!

[bassetman]

Quote:
Originally Posted by bassetman
Thanks for sharing your secret inside information. However even if he did want to do that it would also take the House, the Senate and the majority of the states to approve it!

Originally Posted by Farmgirl

I find it funny that you say that, when you claim that GW did all sorts of damage while the Congress was forced to sit on their thumbs.

NOTE: I am NOT trying to make this thread about GW, and DON'T care to hear any other blathering about him...I was merely pointing out to Basset that he was contradicting himself. Thank you.

If you don't want to hear any further blathering, then DON'T MISREPRESSENT what I said!

I was referring to eliminating Amendments, not torture, illegal spying etc.!

[Farmgirl22]

Originally Posted by bassetman

Quote:
Originally Posted by bassetman
Thanks for sharing your secret inside information. However even if he did want to do that it would also take the House, the Senate and the majority of the states to approve it!



If you don't want to hear any further blathering, then DON'T MISREPRESSENT what I said!

I was referring to eliminating Amendments, not torture, illegal spying etc.!

I never misrepresented what you said. Check some of your older posts, you'll see what I mean.

[bassetman]

Originally Posted by Farmgirl22

I never misrepresented what you said. Check some of your older posts, you'll see what I mean.

You made the claim, you show the proof that I said Bush could do away with an amendment!

[pyritechips]

I just saw that Barack wants to ban semi-automatics. That angers me more than anything as semi-automatics are the majority of firearms sold. If Barack does win, I'll be glad to be out of the country.

That is so ludicrous! The legitimization of something is justified because it is sells well? Tell me something; what is the purpose for the ordinary citizen owning and using semi-automatic weapons? Just because your antiquated constitution says they can? You feel encouraged to run away from your country because S-A weapons should be available to all and sundry? That is an alien concept from where I sit.

[bassetman]

Originally Posted by pyritechips

That is so ludicrous! The legitimization of something is justified because it is sells well? Tell me something; what is the purpose for the ordinary citizen owning and using semi-automatic weapons? Just because your antiquated constitution says they can? You feel encouraged to run away from your country because S-A weapons should be available to all and sundry? That is an alien concept from where I sit.

The police, security guards, forestry service workers, game wardens etc. all carry semi-autos, (not assualt weapons), does that make them dangerous?

Does this look like an assault weapon?

[pyritechips]

Originally Posted by bassetman

The police, security guards, forestry service workers, game wardens etc. all carry semi-autos, (not assualt weapons), does that make them dangerous?

Does this look like an assault weapon?

Jim said:

...what is the purpose for the ordinary citizen owning and using semi-automatic... weapons

Don't evade the original question. What is the point of "ordinary (and many less than ordinary) owning semi-autos? Answer the question.

[bassetman]

Originally Posted by pyritechips

Jim said:


Don't evade the original question. What is the point of "ordinary (and many less than ordinary) owning semi-autos? Answer the question.

Call this an evasion if you want, by why not? Because some other countries don't allow it?