[bassetman]

Originally Posted by sglv

In three years, when you're out of business, I'll remind you of this post. From what I recall, you don't earn enough to shelter your money from his tax increases. You'll be hit harder than I am. From demanding you pay all your employee's health insurance, to the small business taxes you get hit with, and everything in between. By this time, I'll be government employed and exempt from all this nonsense, but still fighting for your rights as a small business trying to get by.

If I am out of business, I will have no assests to shelter!

[GS3]

Right now intrade.com gives McCain 30.5% and falling and Obama 64.5% and rising.

I don't understand how people can say democrats are bad for the economy after the deficits created by Reagan and Bush and after Clinton managing to balance the budget. I guess people will believe big lies if they are repeated often enough.

[poochee]

McCain Battles a Nemesis, the Teleprompter Bush number two!
Senator John McCain is ill-suited to lecterns, which often dwarf his small stature.
By MARK LEIBOVICH
Published: July 6, 2008

LAS VEGAS —Senator John McCain was performing relatively smoothly as he unveiled his energy plan.

He managed to limit the mechanical hand chops and weirdly timed smiles that can often punctuate his speeches. He delivered his lines with an ease that suggested a momentary peace with his longtime nemesis, the teleprompter. (He relied on a belt-and-suspenders approach, with text scrolling down screens to his left and right, and on a big TV set in front of him.)

But when Mr. McCain, the presumptive Republican presidential nominee, came to the intended sound bite of his speech — the part about reducing America’s dependence on foreign oil — he hit a slick.

“I have set before the American people an energy plan, the Lex-eegton Project,” Mr. McCain said, drawing a quick breath and correcting himself. “The Lex-ing-ton Proj-ect,” he said slowly. “The Lexington Project,” he repeated. “Remember that name.”

In a town meeting in Cincinnati the next day, Mr. McCain would again slip up on the name of the Massachusetts town, where, he noted, “Americans asserted their independence once before.” He called it “the Lexiggdon Project” and twice tried to fix his error before flipping the name (“Project Lexington”) in subsequent references.

Excerpts from: http://www.nytimes.com/2008/07/06/us...RKbWx1Qh9nEsfw

[GS3]

July 6

http://ap.google.com/article/ALeqM5g...-nhSAD91O4OKG1

John McCain calls himself an underdog. That may be an understatement. The GOP presidential candidate trails Democrat Barack Obama in polls, organization and money while trying to succeed a deeply unpopular fellow Republican in a year that favors Democrats.

McCain also doesn't seem to have a coherent message let alone much of a strategy despite securing the nomination three months earlier than Obama.

[Littlefield]

Actually MAC does not trail that much in money and a lot of Obama's big money donners have maxed out all ready. I know Obama will still get lots of small doners but MAC will still have plenty of money .

[bassetman]

Originally Posted by GS3

July 6

Mein Kampf

By John McCain

[Fidelista]

Originally Posted by Littlefield

Actually MAC does not trail that much in money and a lot of Obama's big money donners have maxed out all ready. I know Obama will still get lots of small doners but MAC will still have plenty of money .

Maybe Jesse Helms left him some -in his will ?. >f

[Frank4d]

I am not ready for another president who is so obsessed with the war on terrorism that every other word out of his mouth is about terrorism and how we are winning the war in Iraq and we only need a few more months or years. We are not winning and frankly I am sick of hearing about it. And as long as the US insists on being the world police, other countries will hate us and the terrorism and wars will continue. Maybe Obama's idea to sit down and talk with these people isn't such a bad idea.

[bassetman]

Originally Posted by Frank4d

I am not ready for another president who is so obsessed with the war on terrorism that every other word out of his mouth is about terrorism and how we are winning the war in Iraq and we only need a few more months or years. We are not winning and frankly I am sick of hearing about it. And as long as the US insists on being the world police, other countries will hate us and the terrorism and wars will continue. Maybe Obama's idea to sit down and talk with these people isn't such a bad idea.

Maybe Jesse Helms left him some -in his will ?. >f

He took it with him!

[thewonder]

OBAMA,

Yes I am Voting for him for several reasons however I still think, not hope, that he will win!

1. McCain's age in and of itself is of no matter however when you couple that with his years in captivity and his inability to put those concerns to rest, it makes a difference.
I could only think that his experience in the war, while heroic, has aged him beyond his years.

2. While most people would never bring up his experience in a negative way, I don't think most people in the military, even in his day could go through something like that without real, lasting, damage to their personality, and they would have a far better chance than anyone who has not served, on average. So voters must ask themselves, at this time in our history, in our generations lifetime, whatever generation you are in, is it responsible to roll the dice on someone who through no fault of their own may be impaired in his responses to outside stimuli?

Yeah, I can feel the crosshairs from every roof top.Sorry but as a realist I cant see how any responsible person could approach an election without at least being willing to have a conversation about the 400 pound gorilla in the corner.

3. As Americans it is natural for us to strive to be better than we are, and yes, the down side of that is that we rarely attain that position, but we shouldn't give up trying. McCain's stand on most of the issues is artless and without vision of any future better than our present situation. I hear him talk about innovation, I just don't think his idea of innovation and Obama's idea of innovation occupy space in the same universe. We have had 8 years of Conservative, Republican agenda. 8 years of seeing the world through are wallets and the Cold War mentality of the 1900's. Now is the time to move forward not backward. That is not to say there is never a time for Conservative Republicans, but this is not it! All things in moderation, now is the time for Balance and for positioning ourselves to be on top in 70 years, not to be on top next week, that battle has already been fought and all the rhetoric to the contrary is made by political solders who if you notice would rather flap their jaws than join the front line. The problem is this only weakens us from behind.

4. Obama, While inexperienced, is a level headed thinking human being. Before you scoff, I don't think we are all going to join hands and sing together, in fact I would not be surprised at all if we remove our troops from Iraq only to see them leave again for Afganistan once Obama is elected and I don't think as many people would have a problem with that as you may think. Not all Democrats hope to go to Berkeley when they Die! Obama's lack of experience at this time is a plus. We have had some of the most experienced guy's around in positions of power for a while now, not counting Bush himself. It's not a lack of experience , it's a lack of stuff on his shoes. True he may track in something himself but it wont be the same old ...You get my point.

5. Having a BLACK MAN as our president, there I said it!, will move us forward in countless ways. I don't think it will be easy or painless and before anyone accuses me of anything, it is worth noting that anyone who feels the need to, is only proving the point at the beginning of this sentence. It is as mandatory as a WOMAN, ASIAN or HISPANIC becoming President. My team has had the ball long enough, the only negative is that as we prove that anyone of any color, sex of sexual preference for that matter, can be President. We have to be extra careful that we help everyone avoid the mistakes that we have made. Otherwise you get Affirmative Action, A good meaning
attempt at leveling the playing field that gives another group of people the chance to get a foot in the door because they are qualified and make the error of holding it open for all of the friends and relatives who are not qualified. White people invented nepotism in this country and just look how well it's worked for everyone who isn't white. Hell, look how well it's worked out for people who are white!

6.Obama has the ability to make a great many people feel like they can make a difference, or in other words , he has proven he can lead people ,to do more themselves, for themselves and for others. While McCain is not going to lead anyone anywhere. Instead he is going to get out of everyones way ,as long as we agree to give him the toy's that go boom!

7.luckily, for me, as I am supporting Obama he has the longevity to last 8 years. Lets face it, if Republicans and Democrats can agree on any thing it is this, there is NO POSSIBLE WAY to solve all our problems in 4 years, never has been, never will be.

LAST:
All of this from a straight, drug and alcohol free, white, 41 year old male who thinks the only two problems with the death penalty are it's name and the fact that we don't use it more often.

Sorry, I don't see a problem with murders, child molester and rapist being put down. It would save time, space and money if we removed them from the equation and the gene pool.I am not saying it would solve all our problems, or any of them other than the time, space and money that we waste on people who will never be non-murders, child molesters and rapists and if you are someone who thinks a violent criminal can be rehabilitated, let the murder live in your house, the child molester babysit your children and the rapist be your daughters best friend. The reason that last comment is so disgusting is because we feel disgusted when we hear it. Why do we feel that way? What would we think if our spouse announced that any of the three things mentioned above were going to happen this weekend, in our homes, exactly so don't get mad at me for pointing it out!

Remember, the glass is not half empty , the glass is not half full,
THE GLASS IS TOO BIG!

[poochee]

Originally Posted by thewonder

OBAMA,

Yes I am Voting for him for several reasons however I still think, not hope, that he will win!

Good words.

[sglv]

Originally Posted by poochee

McCain Battles a Nemesis, the Teleprompter Bush number two!
Senator John McCain is ill-suited to lecterns, which often dwarf his small stature.
By MARK LEIBOVICH
Published: July 6, 2008

LAS VEGAS —Senator John McCain was performing relatively smoothly as he unveiled his energy plan.

Now that's hilarious! The NYT wasn't there. If they were, they were outside in the 105 degree heat.

I was supposed to attend the earlier event, but didn't, but spoke to many who were.

Instead, I attended the grassroots volunteer event at the HQ later that day, a packed house that was turning away I don't know how many people because not another person would fit, who instead of leaving, chose to wait in the 105 degree heat outside for John McCain to come out just to tell him they supported him.

I spoke to him personally, and have to say he looks much younger in person, exudes energy and confidence, and was amazed when I turned around there was a huge amount of local press, cameras everywhere (non-locals had to wait outside), and overwhelming support.

Even the NYT question the Democrats on their spending habits: http://www.nytimes.com/2008/07/06/us...yg&oref=slogin

And their convention comes a week before the Minneapolis gathering of the Republicans, whose convention efforts have been much smoother.

[sglv]

Originally Posted by Littlefield

Actually MAC does not trail that much in money and a lot of Obama's big money donners have maxed out all ready. I know Obama will still get lots of small doners but MAC will still have plenty of money .

http://online.wsj.com/article/SB1215...n_commentaries

... Here, the Republicans had $53.5 million in hand on May 31, versus the Democrats' paltry $4 million. Thus Mr. McCain and the RNC have $38 million more than Mr. Obama and the DNC.

If Mr. Obama maintains his prodigious fund-raising pace, he could overtake Mr. McCain and the RNC. But that's not guaranteed. In May, Mr. Obama raised $23.3 million and the DNC $4.8 million; but Mr. McCain raised $21.5 million and the RNC $24.4 million. Mr. Obama's Internet-driven fund raising may require a renewed sense of urgency, crisis and energy that may be hard to gin up until the race heats up with the conventions in late August.

Do you honestly believe that Republicans will not start donating even more? I've never donated to a Presidential campaign (local campaigns, yes, Presidential no), but I will be, and I believe others will too. Had Hillary won the nomination, probably not; but she didn't - so I have no choice but to donate what I can. I have to believe I'm not alone.

[poochee]

Originally Posted by sglv

Now that's hilarious! The NYT wasn't there. If they were, they were outside in the 105 degree heat.

[poochee]

Passing the Torch From Bush to McCain Without Getting Burned
By SHERYL GAY STOLBERG
Published: July 4, 2008

WASHINGTON — What if your family was planning a big end-of-summer bash (a Grand Old Party, you might call it) but preferred that you not be seen — or heard?

That is the question hanging over President Bush, with eight weeks to go until Republicans gather in St. Paul to nominate Senator John McCain as his successor. Convention planners, the White House and the McCain campaign are wrestling with how to choreograph a proper send-off for Mr. Bush — sure, his poll numbers are in the tank, but he is still the party leader and president of the United States — while hustling him out the door in time for Mr. McCain to look like his own man.

Excerpt from: http://www.nytimes.com/2008/07/04/us...=pol&emc=polb2