[valis]

Originally Posted by bomb #21

The bit that got me was v saying "I also paid for the shirt once, the book once; doesn't mean that just because it got destroyed I can waltz in and a get a new one for free."

Fairly swiftly followed by "when I buy a cd, it generally ends up on my pc rather quickly" -- thereby minimising the chances of loss by destruction.

true; that having been said, I do have all the cd's in my car, and listen to them on the road, as here in houston we believe in 'music free radio', apparently....cd breaks, I do NOT burn a new one, I go buy one......and yes, that's happened more than once, as my car does not have a cd player, so I have to use a portable type......

just a matter of opinion.......still, I wonder if it's illegal to listen to those tapes I made off of my vinyl; still got those, as my car does have a tape player, and for someone of the digital age, I have a surprisingly large amount of tapes laying around....

[bomb #21]

Originally Posted by BlackSpike

The bit that got me was "bomb said that the Reg said that the Washington Post said that the RIAA said ... "

valis's reply?
"It must be true then!"

Check what RIAA itself says, if you prefer.

"If you make unauthorized copies of copyrighted music recordings, you’re stealing."

The content of bought CDs is (generally) copyrighted. Copying without first seeking the permission of the copyright holder = unauthorised = "illegal".

The RIAA will push this, if and when it can. ( )

[bomb #21]

Originally Posted by Slack

Thanks for pointing the way towards Virgin; should I ever feel my conscience is so stultified I need to throw money towards the likes of Branson I'll remember your advice.

And none of your categories fit my situation

Say what you like about Branson. At least he made the trains run on time.

[bomb #21]

Originally Posted by valis

true; that having been said, I do have all the cd's in my car, and listen to them on the road, as here in houston we believe in 'music free radio', apparently....cd breaks, I do NOT burn a new one, I go buy one......and yes, that's happened more than once, as my car does not have a cd player, so I have to use a portable type......

just a matter of opinion.......still, I wonder if it's illegal to listen to those tapes I made off of my vinyl; still got those, as my car does have a tape player, and for someone of the digital age, I have a surprisingly large amount of tapes laying around....

I believe you. No, really, I do.



I would suspect the same applies for vinyl xfer, that the key would be "authorised". For copying to be authorised, you'd have to request permission first, which would doubtless be denied.

Still, you're in Texas. If the RIAA comes a'knockin', you can just shoot 'em.

[Blackmirror]

Hands up I'm a pyrite




wanabee Jim

[valis]

Originally Posted by bomb #21

Say what you like about Branson. At least he made the trains run on time.

dude, I totally dig branson....the man is completely behind public space flight, and anyone who is on that train, is a friend of mine.....

besides, I got a buddy who works for Virgin....keep asking if he's had lunch with Sir Dicky yet, and he keeps reminding me that it's a company cell phone that I'm calling him on.

I fail to see the connection.

[valis]

Originally Posted by bomb #21

I believe you. No, really, I do.



I would suspect the same applies for vinyl xfer, that the key would be "authorised". For copying to be authorised, you'd have to request permission first, which would doubtless be denied.

Still, you're in Texas. If the RIAA comes a'knockin', you can just shoot 'em.

actually, one side benefit (about the only one I've found, outside of being able to golf year round) of living here is that Texas takes it's privates citizens extremely seriously. If you are in debt to your eyeballs, they can't go after your vehicles, your house, your wages, nada. And they don't screw around when it comes to eliminating the bad members of society.

As one comic put it, other states are working to abolish the death penalty; down here, we're putting in an express lane.

[rob.rice]

Originally Posted by valis

been there, quite a few times actually. That's different in that they OFFER their software for free, as opposed to illegally downloading it.

IMO, anything that is meant to be for sale and instead is downloaded and cracked for free is stealing, plain and simple.

I whole heartedly agree with you on this

All of my software IS

Free
Open
Source
Software
(FOSS)

I do not steal software

even if I wanted to run closed source software I could not do it on this system
I'm running a 64bit linux distro witch isn't supported as yet (and yes it is really fast)

[rob.rice]

Originally Posted by Blackmirror

But the point is Valis you have paid for the cd once
Now its not my fault that trying to change the cd in the car results in them being dropped on the floor

If only they made them so they last

some where in the copyright law you have the right to make a back up copies once you have paid for something copyrighted there was a big stink raised by the RIAA over duel casset players that could copy tapes

you can make copies for your own use only BUT you can't give away or sell copies

so use your computer to make a copy for your car if it gets mucked up make another copy

[RootbeaR]

Originally Posted by rob.rice

I whole heartedly agree with you on this

All of my software IS

Free
Open
Source
Software
(FOSS)

I do not steal software

even if I wanted to run closed source software I could not do it on this system
I'm running a 64bit linux distro witch isn't supported as yet (and yes it is really fast)

Which brings us back to something I posted somewhere quite a long time ago.
MSers' are the thieves. From the OS to the apps.

Linux? How can you steal something that is free?

When I need an app, I go to my distros repo. 8000+ packages.

[RootbeaR]

Originally Posted by rob.rice

some where in the copyright law you have the right to make a back up copies once you have paid for something copyrighted there was a big stink raised by the RIAA over duel casset players that could copy tapes

you can make copies for your own use only BUT you can't give away or sell copies

so use your computer to make a copy for your car if it gets mucked up make another copy

Wasn't it Sony, aka RIAA, who made the most of those dual decks?

[bomb #21]

Originally Posted by valis

dude, I totally dig branson....the man is completely behind public space flight, and anyone who is on that train, is a friend of mine.....

besides, I got a buddy who works for Virgin....keep asking if he's had lunch with Sir Dicky yet, and he keeps reminding me that it's a company cell phone that I'm calling him on.

I fail to see the connection.

OK, bear with me. I'm under the weather today. Was "I fail to see the connection" directed at "Say what you like about Branson. At least he made the trains run on time."?

"Say what you like about Branson. At least he made the trains run on time." was for Slack's benefit. When Virgin Trains started, many of them did not run on time, or even at all.

"Mussolini made the trains run on time" is something that people say from time to time in a "he wasn't all bad" sense. Despite the fact that it's actually false, it's sort of achieved argumentum ad populum status.

Thus it was a juxtaposition of those two ... uhh, "things" for comedic effect. No was added because Slack is on record as being "anti-smileys".

[BlackSpike]

Originally Posted by RootbeaR

Wasn't it Sony, aka RIAA, who made the most of those dual decks?

It was Amstrad who made the first ones and was taken to court over it.
Amstrad won, claiming legal uses for them.

[SlackAli]

I think it's one of the great mysteries of modern times - to rank alongside the continuing popularity of Eddie Izzard - how Branson has managed to con people into thinking he's a cuddly, decent sort of guy. The man is a glans penis of world class proportions, and as ruthless as any other "captain of industry".

[valis]

Originally Posted by bomb #21

OK, bear with me. I'm under the weather today. Was "I fail to see the connection" directed at "Say what you like about Branson. At least he made the trains run on time."?

"Say what you like about Branson. At least he made the trains run on time." was for Slack's benefit. When Virgin Trains started, many of them did not run on time, or even at all.

"Mussolini made the trains run on time" is something that people say from time to time in a "he wasn't all bad" sense. Despite the fact that it's actually false, it's sort of achieved argumentum ad populum status.

Thus it was a juxtaposition of those two ... uhh, "things" for comedic effect. No was added because Slack is on record as being "anti-smileys".

yeah, you're under the weather. The connection was that I'm calling a buddy of mine on a Virgin Records company issued cell phone, and asking if he's had a chance to sup with Sir Dickey yet.

I hate it when I have to explain my jokes.