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WarC · 13-Aug-2009, 03:26 PM **#31**

There are many videos floating around the video sharing sites of Detroit's urban deterioration. The abandoned buildings and suburbs all gone empty or, worse still, remain occupied by the homeless in unsafe, unsanitary conditions...Some of desolate wastelands of Detroit are now great tourist attractions - Here in the midwest it is a pilgrammage of sorts, and many people here in Wisconsin know of or have gone themselves to see Detroit's now empty urban areas. Mile after mile of formerly densely populated wasteland. It is quite a sight to see so much human effort, engineering, construction, history and dreams all left to waste. Relics and hulls that you'd expect to find in the no-mans-land of Chernobyl except its surrounding one of America's greatest cities, a place that we used to hold up as an example of our industrial power.

It's a real shame. The level of poverty in some of those areas are more befitting the third world, or the shambles of industrial europe's big cities.

wacor · 13-Aug-2009, 06:03 PM **#32**

Well that is what happens when a city this big looses half of its population. For years there were problems with empty homes not getting torn down. They have gradually done a better job with that.

Not sure what you mean about the suburbs. I live 9 miles north of the border of Detroit and I am unaware of any of the burbs being anything like Detroit.

**LANMaster** · 14-Aug-2009, 09:43 AM **#33**

I wouldn't want to live in that junkyard of a town.

wacor · 14-Aug-2009, 10:13 AM **#34**

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I wouldn't want to live in that junkyard of a town.

and neither did a million people that deserted it over the last 40 years

once you get out of the city it is really nice though.

**LANMaster** · 14-Aug-2009, 10:21 AM **#35**

I don't know if I could stand having Lions fans as neighbors.

wacor · 14-Aug-2009, 10:22 AM **#36**

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I don't know if I could stand having Lions fans as neighbors.

We are a miserable lot

50+ years and one lousy playoff win

**valis** · 14-Aug-2009, 10:35 AM **#37**

yeah, but you got the Red Wings.......

can't believe those pics of the depot. Astounding. Depressingly so.

wacor · 14-Aug-2009, 10:50 AM **#38**

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yeah, but you got the Red Wings.......

can't believe those pics of the depot. Astounding. Depressingly so.

actually in the last 10 years they have removed a lot of the old abandoned houses and buildings. But that might be due to the corruption with the old mayor and giving the projects to his buddies.

**valis** · 14-Aug-2009, 11:28 AM **#39**

How on earth did the corruption get that bad? You'd think the feds would've picked up on it by now.

**LANMaster** · 14-Aug-2009, 11:38 AM **#40**

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How on earth did the corruption get that bad? You'd think the feds would've picked up on it by now.

The answer is so easy a caveman could figure it out.

**valis** · 14-Aug-2009, 12:37 PM **#41**

thank god I'm not a caveman then, as I have no idea how it could get to be that high ranking and rampant and not have something done about it.

but again, if there's politicians involved, you can bet something illegal is going on.

This is just more proof positive not to trust those twits.

wacor · 14-Aug-2009, 12:49 PM **#42**

It all starts with the families. Detroit has one of the worst drop out rates in the country. Way too many single mothers and way too many that don't care about their kids future. So then you end up with a massively corrupt school board. The things turning up are mind boggling. There is a slight glimmer of hope with some new blood likely coming on the city council and with Dave Bing as Mayor.

Still the school and city are so deep in debt I doubt they can avoid bankruptcy. That happens when the bureaucracy does not down size in sync with the population.

**valis** · 14-Aug-2009, 01:14 PM **#43**

Yeah, I've actually heard about Bing, believe it or not. Sorta surprises me, actually.

But from what I've heard, it sounds like a good match; he'll be able to get some stuff actually done.

wacor · 14-Aug-2009, 02:00 PM **#44**

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Yeah, I've actually heard about Bing, believe it or not. Sorta surprises me, actually.

But from what I've heard, it sounds like a good match; he'll be able to get some stuff actually done.

Bing was a boyhood idol of mine. He was rookie of the year and one whale of a guard. He overcame a devastating eye injury the they thought would cut his career short. I was really bummed as were many when he was traded away. After he retired he formed Bing steel which was and is a successful business in the area. We did work at his house in the burbs. Very nice but not a mega mansion. The only fault with the guy is he is pretty soft spoken and the city could use somebody who is more charismatic and vocal. Something Kwame was. That due had it all and could have done wonderful things if he were not so corrupt.

**LANMaster** · 14-Aug-2009, 03:19 PM **#45**

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Originally Posted by valis

thank god I'm not a caveman then, as I have no idea how it could get to be that high ranking and rampant and not have something done about it.

but again, if there's politicians involved, you can bet something illegal is going on.

This is just more proof positive not to trust those twits.

First thing upon which we have agreed for a while now.

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