[poochee]

GOP senators absent at start of climate debate
Obstructionists.
By DINA CAPPIELLO and H. JOSEF HEBERT
AP reporter Desmond Butler contributed to this report.
The Associated Press
Tuesday, November 3, 2009; 12:34 PM

WASHINGTON -- Republicans boycotted the start of committee debate Tuesday on a bill to curb greenhouse gases, protesting that the bill's costs have not been fully examined. The action put a spotlight on the difficulties Democratic leaders face in moving climate legislation this year.

Republican Sen. George Voinovich of Ohio attended the session for 15 minutes to explain the GOP's argument for staying away. He insisted the tactic "is not a ruse" to block the bill, but concern that its widespread impact on the country has not been made clear.

But Sen. Barbara Boxer of California, the panel's chairman, argued the EPA already has provided "a full blown economic analysis" and that Majority Leader Harry Reid has promised further studies when the bill is merged with other legislation. She insisted, "We're not rushing. We are taking our time."

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn...=moreheadlines

[poochee]

Merkel calls for strong deal on climate change
DESMOND BUTLER | November 3, 2009 01:33 PM EST |
Associated Press writers H. Josef Hebert in Washington and Arthur Max in Barcelona contributed to this report.

WASHINGTON — German Chancellor Angela Merkel marked the 20th anniversary of the fall of the Berlin Wall by exhorting the world in a speech to Congress on Tuesday to "tear down the walls of today" and reach a deal to combat global warming.

Frequently interrupted by robust applause, Merkel reiterated her country's commitment to fostering security in Afghanistan and also said that a nuclear bomb in the hands of Iran "is not acceptable."

In the first address by a German chancellor to Congress since Konrad Adenauer in 1957, Merkel put special emphasis on the need for a global agreement on climate change – one she said she hoped could be forged at an international conference next month in Copenhagen.

"We have no time to lose," she declared. Merkel said she recognized that no deal could be successful without the support of China and India – but that if a deal were struck, she said she was sure those two fast-growing economies could be persuaded to sign on.

"Today's generation needs to prove that it is able to meet the challenges of the 21st century, and that, in a sense, we are able to tear down walls of today," she said.


Excerpts from: http://www.huffingtonpost.com/huff-w...us-us-germany/

[poochee]

Originally Posted by ekim68

Heh, heh, xico, that reminds me when I got chewed out by a marine officer when I didn't salute him....Geez, that guy must have eaten lemons and limes for lunch...

Obama warns Afghan president: Time for new chapter

WASHINGTON -- President Barack Obama greeted Hamid Karzai's election victory with as much admonishment as praise on Monday, pointedly advising America's partner in war he must make more serious efforts to end corruption in Afghanistan's government and prepare his nation to ultimately defend itself.

"I emphasized that this has to be a point in time in which we begin to write a new chapter," Obama said in describing his phone call to the Afghan president. When Karzai offered back assurances, Obama said he told him that "the proof is not going to be in words. It's going to be in deeds."

http://www.seattlepi.com/national/11...ghanistan.html

[poochee]

Ryan Grim
Huffpost - As GOP Holds Up Unemployment Extension, Nearly 200,000 Lose Their Benefits So caring.
First Posted: 11- 3-09 12:20 PM | Updated: 11- 3-09 12:56 PM

In the world outside the Senate, time is money; inside it, time is everything. Senate Republicans are taking full advantage of that reality, using every parliamentary device at their disposal to slow down an extension of unemployment insurance benefits -- even after Democrats added billions for big business to sweeten the pot.

The saga is both a case study in the difficulty of passing even popular legislation in the Senate and the lengths to which the GOP is going to slow down the process.

The extension overwhelmingly passed the House 331-83 in late September. Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid (D-Nev.) made a motion to pass it by unanimous consent in early October; it was blocked by GOP objections.

After negotiations, Reid filed for cloture on Oct. 21 to break a GOP filibuster. On October 27, the Senate voted 87-13 on a motion to proceed to consider the bill, breaking the filibuster.

But under Senate rules, the GOP is still allowed 30 hours of "debate." There actually isn't much debate, but the clock is ticking while senators take to the floor to make speeches about whatever they like.

"What's really going on is that the Republicans are trying to slow-walk everything, to make it as difficult as possible for Democrats to accomplish much," said Manley. "This won't be the first time that they slow things down as much as possible, then vote for final passage. While they are intent on obstructionism, they don't want the blame for opposing popular policies.".Obstructionists.

In the meantime, according to a Senate Democratic ticker, more than 185,000 people have lost their unemployment benefits.

Excerpts from: http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2009/1..._n_343828.html

[wacor]

Originally Posted by poochee

GOP senators absent at start of climate debate
Obstructionists.
By DINA CAPPIELLO and H. JOSEF HEBERT
AP reporter Desmond Butler contributed to this report.
The Associated Press
Tuesday, November 3, 2009; 12:34 PM

WASHINGTON -- Republicans boycotted the start of committee debate Tuesday on a bill to curb greenhouse gases, protesting that the bill's costs have not been fully examined. The action put a spotlight on the difficulties Democratic leaders face in moving climate legislation this year.

Republican Sen. George Voinovich of Ohio attended the session for 15 minutes to explain the GOP's argument for staying away. He insisted the tactic "is not a ruse" to block the bill, but concern that its widespread impact on the country has not been made clear.

But Sen. Barbara Boxer of California, the panel's chairman, argued the EPA already has provided "a full blown economic analysis" and that Majority Leader Harry Reid has promised further studies when the bill is merged with other legislation. She insisted, "We're not rushing. We are taking our time."

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn...=moreheadlines

Guess you missed everything past the headline where the following was stated. Yeah there is no rush..

And why if it was such an important meeting did Baucus miss it?

Details, details, lets not bother with details.

The partisan rift in the Environment and Public Works Committee, which delayed votes on amendments to the legislation, exposed the sharp divisions in the Senate over how to address global warming. Democrats also have been split on the issue. Sen. Max Baucus,D-Mont., who said he had deep reservations about the bill also was absent.

Boxer had hoped to push the legislation out of her committee this week, so it could be merged with provisions from five other committees and demonstrate to the world some progress in Congress before the international climate conference begins in Copenhagen, Denmark, in December.

[LANMaster]

Originally Posted by wacor

Guess you missed everything past the headline where the following was stated. Yeah there is no rush..

And why if it was such an important meeting did Baucus miss it?

Details, details, lets not bother with details.

Perhaps it is because there's more danger from Africanized bees, and pythons breeding in the everglades, and pedophiles molesting our kids than there is about the infinitessimally small contribution humankind makes to global warming,......

...... or perhaps it is that the leftist legislation being propose will have ZERO, ZILCH, NADA impact on climate change, but will have a serious negative impact on our economy which (in case she hasn't noticed) is in the toilet right now.

[poochee]

Clinton diverts to Egypt for Mideast peace talks
ROBERT BURNS | November 3, 2009 04:45 PM EST | AP

CAIRO — U.S. Secretary of State Hillary Rodham Clinton made a hastily arranged stop in the Egyptian capital Tuesday to consult with a longtime Arab ally amid indications of a shifting U.S. strategy for getting Israel and the Palestinians back to peace negotiations.

Instead of returning to Washington, as scheduled, after attending an international conference in Marrakech, Morocco, Clinton flew to Cairo and held late-night talks with Foreign Minister Ahmed Aboul Gheit and Omar Suleiman, the Egyptian intelligence chief. She was due to meet Wednesday with President Hosni Mubarak before returning to Washington to brief President Barack Obama.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/huff-w...03/ml-clinton/

[xico]

Obama's Decision on More Troops to "Someone Else's Civil War"
In his letter of resignation, Matthew Hoh wrote, "I fail to see the value ... in continuous U.S. casualties or expenditures of resources in support of the Afghan government in what is, truly, a 35-year old civil war." A prominent American agrees: "It's time to admit that no amount of American lives can resolve the political disagreement that lies at the heart of someone else's civil war." That was Senator Barack Obama, announcing his candidacy for President in Springfield, Illinois, on February 10, 2007. A search through the New York Times and the Washington Post for the last 12 months turns up exactly one article mentioning the idea that there is a civil war in Afghanistan: the Post article on Hoh's resignation.
http://www.justforeignpolicy.org/node/389

[poochee]

White House: No flu shots for Gitmo detainees
Earlier report said H1N1 vaccine doses were due to arrive this month
Associated Press
updated 1:11 p.m. PT, Tues., Nov . 3, 2009

Robert Gibbs on Tuesday said concern that terrorism suspects at the U.S. naval base in Cuba were receiving vaccines was misplaced

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http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/33606895...ews-terrorism/

[wacor]

Should be fun watching the democrats spin this one as it is all local.

WASHINGTON – Republicans wrested Virginia from the Democrats Tuesday in a one-sided sweep of top offices, and New Jersey's unpopular Democratic Gov. Jon Corzine fought for his political life as independent voters swung behind the GOP in elections in both states. It was a troubling sign for President Barack Obama and his party heading into an important midterm election year.

Go ahead and pass cap and trade democrats. I double dog dare ya. Virginia just sent the morons in DC a message whether they want to admit it or not.

This is an indictment on the far left running the democrats because the middle of the road folks are now the majority. And they choose to gamble on the idiot reps rather than the nonsense coming from the left.

My how the tenor of things can change in 12 months. Now this is change I can support

[poochee]

Ryan Grim
Huffpost - Final House Health Care Bill To Be Unveiled
First Posted: 11- 3-09 08:15 PM | Updated: 11- 3-09 09:49 PM

House Speaker Nancy Pelosi (D-Calif.) is expected to unveil a revised health care reform bill - known as a manager's amendment -- Tuesday evening after taking the concerns of her caucus into account.

If it passes the House, it'll be merged with the Senate version in conference committee and then will come back for one final vote before heading to the president's desk.

Excerpts from: http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2009/1..._n_344596.html

[xico]

Originally Posted by LANMaster

Coffee everywhere .... Thanks a lot!


Like how he is screwing healthcare for the majority of Americans so that a few Americans (and illegals) can obtain insurance without having to apply for Medicare?










Geez, xico, that is all that I was doing. I did not cause this firestorm.

Lan, Obama hasn't presented a plan. In fact, that's what's so upsetting. What we have is something from the insurance companies thru Bachus.
Nice pic.
One of my kids girlfriend's brother is chief of homicide in Sarasota and was the dectective who nailed this guy who had had his wife murdered. heh heh In the video on TV the only shot of him is the one pickin' his nose. LOL How embarrassing! And what a let down.

[xico]

Originally Posted by LANMaster

Perhaps it is because there's more danger from Africanized bees, and pythons breeding in the everglades, and pedophiles molesting our kids than there is about the infinitessimally small contribution humankind makes to global warming,......

...... or perhaps it is that the leftist legislation being propose will have ZERO, ZILCH, NADA impact on climate change, but will have a serious negative impact on our economy which (in case she hasn't noticed) is in the toilet right now.

Lan, 6 billion people, not to mention farm animals, farting would do something more than an "infinitessimally small contribution humankind makes to global warming,......" But, worse, many of these people, not only fart from poor eating habits,
they also drive automobiles, trucks, suvs, lawnmowers, generators, tanks, jets, like many Air Force Ones, heliocopters, missiles, huge ocean going ships, and go around causing death and destruction with the newest explosive devices, like drones, napalm, etc. Opps! Almost started a rant. Originally, farting was the topic that would make more than an "infinitessimally small contribution humankind makes to global warming,....."


BTW, a midget has an entirely different perspective about global warming in a crowded elevator.

[LuckyStrike]

In regards to the issue of methane gas produced by farm animals and it's effect, it is dishonest to look only at current emissions in absolute terms. The real question is how does it compare to the past, let's say 200 years ago. I don't know off hand what the current population of domestic animals is, but I do know that 200 years ago there was an estimated 80 million american bison roaming north america that are gone now. Add to that tens of millions of other wild animals like deer, elk, boar, and bear that have much lower numbers now. Consider also that much of the best farmland in american was swamp or swamp like much of the year before drainage was dug by settlers. Swamps are major producers of methane and carbon dioxide. Also I've heard recently a report about how much water it takes to supply domestic farm animals, as if this causes shortages for humans. I would guess that most water used by farm animals comes from farm ponds constructed to catch run off, and has no effect on water supplies for humans.

[Knotbored]

I heard only part of the commentary-but Rush Limbah was quoting from some ecology report that indicated a pet dog has a larger carbon footprint then a Toyota (considering the food supply and running room and veteranary needs.)