There's no such thing as a stupid question, but they're the easiest to answer.
JoinTour
Login
Search
Civilized Debate
Tag Cloud
access acer asus bios bsod computer crash dns drive driver drivers error ethernet excel freeze games gaming graphics hard drive hardware hdmi internet java laptop malware memory monitor motherboard network printer problem ram random registry router slow software sound trojan usb video virus vista wifi windows windows 7 windows 7 32 bit windows 7 64 bit windows xp wireless
Search
Search for:
Tech Support Guy Forums > Community > Controversial Topics > Civilized Debate >
Three fixations of fundamentalist Christians

 
Thread Tools
Drabdr's Avatar
Computer Specs
Community Moderator with 6,566 posts.
 
Join Date: Nov 2007
Location: Arlington, TX
Experience: Computers fear me
06-Feb-2010, 03:15 PM #286
Quote:
Originally Posted by jmosmith View Post
Only if the Saints win the Super Bowl,.... hey, it's a religious thread, right!?

GEAUX SAINTS!!!


Ya know, I don't know who I want to win. I will probably end up pulling for the Saints. Regardless, I bet it will be a good game.

All, enjoy the game tomorrow.
LANMaster's Avatar
Distinguished Member with 55,833 posts.
 
Join Date: Jan 2003
Location: Central USA
Experience: Need no stinking badges
06-Feb-2010, 07:17 PM #287
Go Saints!!!!
lotuseclat79's Avatar
Distinguished Member with 21,345 posts.
 
Join Date: Sep 2003
Location: -71.45091, 42.27841
07-Feb-2010, 12:45 PM #288
Christians claim hate crimes law an effort to ‘eradicate’ their beliefs.

A Christian group in Michigan has filed a lawsuit alleging that a package of hate crimes laws named after murder victim Matthew Shepard is an affront to their religious freedom.

-- Tom
Ciberblade's Avatar
Ciberblade has a Photo Album
Computer Specs
Community Moderator with 16,188 posts.
 
Join Date: Sep 2003
Location: Heart of the Bluegrass Ky
Experience: Mostly Harmless
08-Feb-2010, 10:09 AM #289
Quote:
Originally Posted by lotuseclat79 View Post
Christians claim hate crimes law an effort to ‘eradicate’ their beliefs.

A Christian group in Michigan has filed a lawsuit alleging that a package of hate crimes laws named after murder victim Matthew Shepard is an affront to their religious freedom.

-- Tom
Wow, that is just....unfortunate. It illustrates what so many believe being a 'Christian' to be.....hypocritical, judgmental, hateful, condemning, condescending, etc... Worse is that these people find their identity in Christ to be wrapped up in their "right" to stand opposed to 'homosexuals' regardless of teachings.

In short...
__________________
Far righty-tighty Wingnut Libertarian ( ) - annoyingly free thinking with no tendency to agree on anything with anyone. - BF

If you wish...you can now come to church with me! A church that is NOT normal...a church for people who don't like 'church'
poochee's Avatar
Computer Specs
Distinguished Member with 86,680 posts.
 
Join Date: Aug 2004
Location: California
Experience: Intermediate
08-Feb-2010, 01:06 PM #290
Quote:
Originally Posted by lotuseclat79 View Post
Christians claim hate crimes law an effort to ‘eradicate’ their beliefs.

A Christian group in Michigan has filed a lawsuit alleging that a package of hate crimes laws named after murder victim Matthew Shepard is an affront to their religious freedom.

-- Tom
I am releived to say this is an "association" not a church.
Murtag's Avatar
Computer Specs
Member with 35 posts.
 
Join Date: Feb 2010
Experience: Advanced
08-Feb-2010, 02:57 PM #291
Quote:
Originally Posted by brillser View Post
Is "fundamentalist" just another word for "extremist"?
If you are a fundamentalist christain, it just means that you believe in the whole Bible.
Murtag's Avatar
Computer Specs
Member with 35 posts.
 
Join Date: Feb 2010
Experience: Advanced
08-Feb-2010, 03:07 PM #292
Quote:
Originally Posted by Ciberblade View Post
Wow, that is just....unfortunate. It illustrates what so many believe being a 'Christian' to be.....hypocritical, judgmental, hateful, condemning, condescending, etc... Worse is that these people find their identity in Christ to be wrapped up in their "right" to stand opposed to 'homosexuals' regardless of teachings.

In short...

What drives me crazy, is that people will hear the word "Christian", and automatically think that they are supposed to be perfect people just like Jesus who don't do anything wrong. Well, here is a big shocker... good thing whoever reads this is probably sitting down... but....... we are human too!!! We have faults, and struggle with things just like everyone else in the world.

And about homosexuals... Leviticus 18:22 hasn't erased itself for a reason >.> *no sarcasm intended*
Before someone jumps on me, for the record, I don't hate homosexuals.
poochee's Avatar
Computer Specs
Distinguished Member with 86,680 posts.
 
Join Date: Aug 2004
Location: California
Experience: Intermediate
08-Feb-2010, 03:27 PM #293
Quote:
Originally Posted by Murtag View Post
If you are a fundamentalist christain, it just means that you believe in the whole Bible.
Yep!
Ciberblade's Avatar
Ciberblade has a Photo Album
Computer Specs
Community Moderator with 16,188 posts.
 
Join Date: Sep 2003
Location: Heart of the Bluegrass Ky
Experience: Mostly Harmless
08-Feb-2010, 03:47 PM #294
Quote:
Originally Posted by Murtag View Post
What drives me crazy, is that people will hear the word "Christian", and automatically think that they are supposed to be perfect people just like Jesus who don't do anything wrong. Well, here is a big shocker... good thing whoever reads this is probably sitting down... but....... we are human too!!! We have faults, and struggle with things just like everyone else in the world.

And about homosexuals... Leviticus 18:22 hasn't erased itself for a reason >.> *no sarcasm intended*
Before someone jumps on me, for the record, I don't hate homosexuals.
You touch on the point...we are human with faults and struggles with sin patters rampant throughout our life. So why is it so important to point a finger at homosexuals?

True, Leviticus has not erased itself - nor has any of the verses dealing with greed, pride, hate, et al. None are worse than the other and ALL speak to behavior, not people. The problem with "homosexuals" is...that the term is used as a blanket of alienation/accusation of people beyond behavior. My question in the middle of that is: where is the presence of God's love?
__________________
Far righty-tighty Wingnut Libertarian ( ) - annoyingly free thinking with no tendency to agree on anything with anyone. - BF

If you wish...you can now come to church with me! A church that is NOT normal...a church for people who don't like 'church'
Murtag's Avatar
Computer Specs
Member with 35 posts.
 
Join Date: Feb 2010
Experience: Advanced
09-Feb-2010, 11:18 AM #295
I do not think it is important to point a finger at anyone, we just need to show them through the love of God that what they are doing is an abomination in His eyes.

So technically I agree with you
valis's Avatar
Computer Specs
Moderator with 48,701 posts.
 
Join Date: Sep 2004
Location: as above
Experience: so below
09-Feb-2010, 01:21 PM #296
I think what you mean to say is that
Quote:
we just need to show them through the love of God that what they are doing is an abomination in His eyes, in my opinion.
because you got NO proof that he even exists, much less that he has appointed you spokesperson for what is and is not an abomination in his eyes.
Ciberblade's Avatar
Ciberblade has a Photo Album
Computer Specs
Community Moderator with 16,188 posts.
 
Join Date: Sep 2003
Location: Heart of the Bluegrass Ky
Experience: Mostly Harmless
09-Feb-2010, 04:03 PM #297
Quote:
Originally Posted by Murtag View Post
I do not think it is important to point a finger at anyone, we just need to show them through the love of God that what they are doing is an abomination in His eyes.

So technically I agree with you
Technically...how nice

Then....how is it any different from each and every single person on the planet?
pyritechips's Avatar
pyritechips has a Photo Album
Computer Specs
Community Moderator with 24,368 posts.
 
Join Date: Jun 2002
09-Feb-2010, 04:39 PM #298
Quote:
Originally Posted by valis View Post
I think what you mean to say is that


because you got NO proof that he even exists, much less that he has appointed you spokesperson for what is and is not an abomination in his eyes.
Tim, I think the impasse comes about because god, in the eyes of a believer, is the Absolute Truth. If one accepts that then his sentence makes perfect sense.

But as I have argued, there is no Absolute Truth. That means there is no god, unless you wish to believe in a relativistic one. Therefore a believer cannot accept there being no Absolute Truth. But a non-believer takes his statement as being meaningless. Such things as homosexuality and abortion being abominations in his eyes has no more value than does slithy toves:

Quote:
Twas brillig, and the slithy toves
Did gyre and gimble in the wabe:
All mimsy were the borogoves,
And the mome raths outgrabe.
__________________
"Irony is more humane than its sneering cousin, sarcasm, which is intended to demolish and ridicule." - Richard Handler.
"Respect is earned; it is not a birthright." - Me
"And what is good, Phaedrus, And what is not good - Need we ask anyone to tell us these things?" - Plato
Murtag's Avatar
Computer Specs
Member with 35 posts.
 
Join Date: Feb 2010
Experience: Advanced
09-Feb-2010, 08:57 PM #299
Quote:
Originally Posted by valis View Post
I think what you mean to say is that


because you *got NO proof that he even exists, much less that he has appointed you spokesperson for what is and is not an abomination in his eyes.
*have
The world, even your own body is proof He does exist.
The world and the human body is so complex, no logical person would believe that it just somehow happened in some sort of explosion, then, managed to become what it is today.
One of my well-liked quotes:

Atheism
:
The belief that there was nothing
and nothing happened to nothing
and then nothing magically
exploded for no reason, creating
everything, and then a bunch of
everything magically rearranged
itself for no reason whatsoever
into self-replicating bits which
then turned into dinosaurs.

Makes perfect sense.


"spokesperson?",
I guess you could label anyone who believes in the Bible a "spokesperson"... If they are not sharing the Word of God with people... then they probably want to read the good Book a little more
Murtag's Avatar
Computer Specs
Member with 35 posts.
 
Join Date: Feb 2010
Experience: Advanced
09-Feb-2010, 09:01 PM #300
Quote:
Originally Posted by pyritechips View Post
Tim, I think the impasse comes about because god, in the eyes of a believer, is the Absolute Truth. If one accepts that then his sentence makes perfect sense.

But as I have argued, there is no Absolute Truth. That means there is no god, unless you wish to believe in a relativistic one. Therefore a believer cannot accept there being no Absolute Truth. But a non-believer takes his statement as being meaningless. Such things as homosexuality and abortion being abominations in his eyes has no more value than does slithy toves:
About Absolute Truth, check this site out.
*question is at top in white, click the box that you choose as your answer*
>>>>Please read through it, it will help explain things so it makes sense<<<<
http://www.proofthatgodexists.org/

 

THIS THREAD HAS EXPIRED.
Are you having the same problem? We have volunteers ready to answer your question, but first you'll have to join for free. Need help getting started? Check out our Welcome Guide.

Search Tech Support Guy

Find the solution to your
computer problem!




Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 1 (0 members and 1 guests)
 
WELCOME TO TECH SUPPORT GUY! Are you looking for the solution to your computer problem? Join our site today to ask your question -- for free! Our site is run completely by volunteers who want to help you solve your computer problems. See our Welcome Guide to get started.
Thread Tools



Facebook Facebook Twitter Twitter TechGuy.tv TechGuy.tv Mobile TSG Mobile
You Are Using:
Server ID
Advertisements do not imply our endorsement of that product or service.
All times are GMT -4. The time now is 01:54 PM.
Copyright © 1996 - 2011 TechGuy, Inc. All rights reserved.

Powered by Cermak Technologies, Inc.