[nerd-girl]

I'm aware that many people see human rights as completely different things, I am curious as to what it means to you, and why.

To me, human rights is the basic right to be able to live your life in freedom and safety, have plenty to eat and drink, somewhere warm to sleep, and to not have to live in fear or danger. Obviously the Declaration of Human Rights is the big picture.

But I think Human Rights can extend into our every day lives. For example, to me, an assault is a removal of someone's human rights. Discrimination is against your human rights. Domestic violence is against your human rights.

So what do you guys think?

[LANMaster]

Who's responsibility is it to grant me those rights.
Is it my responsibility to deny my own Son those very same rights (by sending him to war) in order to grant them to some foreign citizen under the yoke of tyrrany?
On a lighter side, should the government take away my rights and give them to someone else simply because I have worked long and hard to attain the means to provide those rights to myself and my family?
And what about the very right for someone to live? Should late term abortion be made legal simply because the baby doesn't happen to be the preferred gender?

They are all important questions. Especially those where 1 person's rights interfere with another's.

[iltos]

Originally Posted by LANMaster

Who's responsibility is it to grant me those rights.
Is it my responsibility to deny my own Son those very same rights (by sending him to war) in order to grant them to some foreign citizen under the yoke of tyrrany?
On a lighter side, should the government take away my rights and give them to someone else simply because I have worked long and hard to attain the means to provide those rights to myself and my family?
And what about the very right for someone to live? Should late term abortion be made legal simply because the baby doesn't happen to be the preferred gender?

They are all important questions. Especially those where 1 person's rights interfere with another's.

it would seem then that an essential human right is the right to choose
another being the right to freedom from abuse by the choices of others.....

balancing those things must be the reason for laws.

[LANMaster]

Okay ..... I choose that you should share any posessions which you have, that I do not.

No sense in you enjoying a steak when all I have is Mac-N-Cheese. That just wouldn't be "fair".

I know I am sounding a little glib, as food and water is a need rfor survival, and there are people starving because of the greed of others. Especially where the water supply is concerned. But that does not have bearing in a country like the USA, because all of these resources are accessible to all people who are here.

[iltos]

Originally Posted by LANMaster

Okay ..... I choose that you should share any posessions which you have, that I do not.

No sense in you enjoying a steak when all I have is Mac-N-Cheese. That just wouldn't be "fair".

I know I am sounding a little glib, as food and water is a need rfor survival, and there are people starving because of the greed of others. Especially where the water supply is concerned. But that does not have bearing in a country like the USA, because all of these resources are accessible to all people who are here.

see what happens when you actually start thinking about basic human rights?....
you start sounding like a spokesman for the UN


ya dang socialist

[LANMaster]

Originally Posted by iltos

see what happens when you actually start thinking about basic human rights?....
you start sounding like a spokesman for the UN


ya dang socialist

Hey ..... that's hitting below the belt there, big fella.




Hope you're well, Amigo.

[poochee]

Originally Posted by nerd-girl

I'm aware that many people see human rights as completely different things, I am curious as to what it means to you, and why.

To me, human rights is the basic right to be able to live your life in freedom and safety, have plenty to eat and drink, somewhere warm to sleep, and to not have to live in fear or danger. Obviously the Declaration of Human Rights is the big picture.

But I think Human Rights can extend into our every day lives. For example, to me, an assault is a removal of someone's human rights. Discrimination is against your human rights. Domestic violence is against your human rights.

So what do you guys think?

I agree with you. However, we have too many who practice only "ME" rights. That's why we must have laws that guarantee the human rights of "ALL" people.

[LANMaster]

Originally Posted by poochee

I agree with you. However, we have too many who practice only "ME" rights. That's why we must have laws that guarantee the human rights of "ALL" people.

How do these laws "guarantee" human rights? Are they guaranteed to take from you that which you have earned, and give it to someone else?

.... please don't misunderstand me. I am a charitable giver. At least I will be up to the moment my government decides they will be a charitable taker.

[poochee]

Originally Posted by LANMaster

How do these laws "guarantee" human rights? Are they guaranteed to take from you that which you have earned, and give it to someone else?

.... please don't misunderstand me. I am a charitable giver. At least I will be up to the moment my government decides they will be a charitable taker.

It's amazing how quickly this thread has arrived at this point!

Oh well, onward to another subject.

[iltos]

Originally Posted by LANMaster

How do these laws "guarantee" human rights? Are they guaranteed to take from you that which you have earned, and give it to someone else?

.... please don't misunderstand me. I am a charitable giver. At least I will be up to the moment my government decides they will be a charitable taker.

i have to agree
"giving" falls under the human right to choose, and is as much a result of freedom as "hoarding"

that certain people -for whatever reasons- feel some form of obligation to give rather than hoard is a result of the same right to choose.

and here is where we'll probably part ways on this
as a right of choice, giving is just as selfish as hoarding...individual hearts and motivations give rise to variety of actions.....but all are born in the desire to fulfill the self

if america has one failing in the area of human rights, it is having lost the purpose of selfishness written into the constitution.

[ozziebeanie]

Human rights the right to do as we please as long as it is not to the detriment of others

[LANMaster]

Originally Posted by iltos

i have to agree
"giving" falls under the human right to choose, and is as much a result of freedom as "hoarding"

that certain people -for whatever reasons- feel some form of obligation to give rather than hoard is a result of the same right to choose.

and here is where we'll probably part ways on this
as a right of choice, giving is just as selfish as hoarding...individual hearts and motivations give rise to variety of actions.....but all are born in the desire to fulfill the self

if america has one failing in the area of human rights, it is having lost the purpose of selfishness written into the constitution.

What? Are you daft?

The US public is the most charitable group of people on the planet .... THAT'S EVER BEEN ON ON THE PLANET.

You slay me, dude.

[iltos]

Originally Posted by LANMaster

What? Are you daft?

The US public is the most charitable group of people on the planet .... THAT'S EVER BEEN ON ON THE PLANET.

You slay me, dude.

LOL....
huh?
LAN, i know tomorrow is the 4th of July and all, but......
what the heck ARE you going on about?

i don't know how you could have taken my post and arrived at some political statement about america's charitable giving from it.

i was expecting that you might take issue with my wordage, especially wrt your religious beliefs and the nature of "selfishness".....but whether or not america has been generous didn't even occur to me.

i'm just gonna hop in my space ship and go back to earth now