[Stoner]

Originally Posted by Mulderator

None whatsoever!!!!

Well, you're in good company

[TooBad]

Originally Posted by thingamajig

I prefer the word "progressive".

That is even worse than a liberal. "Progressives" are not in favor of the US Constitution. Another word for "progressive" is communist!

[LANMaster]

Originally Posted by Mulderator

Well LAN was a moore-on for buying into all that BS to begin with--I wouldn't give him any credit after he finally sees the light years later!!!!

Once you've committed US troops to military action, you can't "go wobbly" on them.

But at this point, the political powers that be have had their chance for victory, and they have squandered that chance, because they did not have the stomach to engage in total war.

I honestly do not know what is salvagable at this point with either theatre.

[LANMaster]

Originally Posted by thingamajig

I prefer the word "progressive".

What is the difference? That is just putting perfume on a pig.

[TooBad]

Originally Posted by LANMaster

What is the difference? That is just putting perfume on a pig.

Not really, LAN, a classic liberal was for liberty. Now that word was b@stardized to cover the progressives that use that term to hide their communist beliefs. The exact opposite of being for liberty is being for a large government to control all.

[thingamajig]

Originally Posted by TooBad

Not really, LAN, a classic liberal was for liberty. Now that word was b@stardized to cover the progressives that use that term to hide their communist beliefs. The exact opposite of being for liberty is being for a large government to control all.

If liberal is for liberty than progressive is for progress and pragmatism. Your suggestion that it is related to communism is a straw man that I reject. Next, you'll be bringing back Mccarthyism.

[wacor]

Originally Posted by thingamajig

If liberal is for liberty than progressive is for progress and pragmatism. Your suggestion that it is related to communism is a straw man that I reject. Next, you'll be bringing back Mccarthyism.

The democrat party like the republican party is not what it used to be.

Progressive borders on socialism. You may not like to hear that but it is much closer to what the dems have become than you realize.

[LANMaster]

Originally Posted by thingamajig

If liberal is for liberty than progressive is for progress and pragmatism. Your suggestion that it is related to communism is a straw man that I reject. Next, you'll be bringing back Mccarthyism.

McCarthy was correct about the dangers of Communism. He was merely wrong about how to fight it.

You simply cannot fight totalitarianism with totalitarianism .... fascism with fascism.

[TooBad]

Originally Posted by wacor

The democrat party like the republican party is not what it used to be.

Progressive borders on socialism. You may not like to hear that but it is much closer to what the dems have become than you realize.

It doesn't "border on", it is outright heavy socialism with the goal of communism and is not party specific. The first progressive POTUS was T. Roosevelt! Wilson was the worst, with FDR close behind, but none are as bad as the One!

[ekim68]

Originally Posted by TooBad

Not really, LAN, a classic liberal was for liberty. Now that word was b@stardized to cover the progressives that use that term to hide their communist beliefs. The exact opposite of being for liberty is being for a large government to control all.

Where did you get that? What are their communist beliefs? Do you even know what communism is? Pulleeeeze..... And how do you qualify the statement that the exact opposite of being for liberty is being for a large government to control all? Turn off Fox Non-News and get some relief...

[LANMaster]

Ekim, do YOU know what Communism is?

[Fidelista]

Originally Posted by TooBad

It doesn't "border on", it is outright heavy socialism with the goal of communism and is not party specific. The first progressive POTUS was T. Roosevelt! Wilson was the worst, with FDR close behind, but none are as bad as the One!

Teddy Roosevelt a "communist " ! LOL!!!!!! . Wilson and FDR ?
This conversation has got so dumb --its entertaining as comedy .
In spite of the comedy , it is scary that some may believe such horseshat .
Do you even realize how stupid a statement you have made ? .
I suggest you learn something before making such ridiculous statements .
>f

[poochee]

4EverRight what do you think of this:

Is Conservatism Brain-Dead?
By Steven F. Hayward
Sunday, October 4, 2009

During the glory days of the conservative movement, from its ascent in the 1960s and '70s to its success in Ronald Reagan's era, there was a balance between the intellectuals, such as Buckley and Milton Friedman, and the activists, such as Phyllis Schlafly and Paul Weyrich, the leader of the New Right. The conservative political movement, for all its infighting, has always drawn deeply from the conservative intellectual movement, and this mix of populism and elitism troubled neither side.

Today, however, the conservative movement has been thrown off balance, with the populists dominating and the intellectuals retreating and struggling to come up with new ideas. The leading conservative figures of our time are now drawn from mass media, from talk radio and cable news. We've traded in Buckley for Beck, Kristol for Coulter, and conservatism has been reduced to sound bites.

President Obama has done conservatives a great favor, delivering CPR to the movement with his program of government gigantism, but this resuscitation should not be confused with a return to political or intellectual health. The brain waves of the American right continue to be erratic, when they are not flat-lining.

Consider the "tea party" phenomenon. Though authentic and laudatory, it is unfocused, lacking the connection to a concrete ideology that characterized the tax revolt of the 1970s, which was joined at the hip with insurgent supply-side economics. Meanwhile, the "birthers" have become the "grassy knollers" of the right; their obsession with Obama's origins is reviving frivolous paranoia as the face of conservatism. (Does anyone really think that if evidence existed of Obama's putative foreign birth, Hillary Rodham Clinton wouldn't have found it 18 months ago?)

Excerpts from: http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn...d=opinionsbox1

[ekim68]

Originally Posted by LANMaster

Ekim, do YOU know what Communism is?

The word of Communism comes from community as I recall.... (What happens after politics' is applied changes everyday.. )

[buffoon]

Originally Posted by LANMaster

Ekim, do YOU know what Communism is?

Well I've seen it at work from close quarters. Although it has/had nothing to do with Marx' and Engels' original (utopian) concept it's what we have come to refer to as communism.

To liken FDR (for one) to a communist is laughable. Same thing goes for BO.
But the accusation is always a good way to get parts of American society to froth at the mouth. Kinda like Pavlov's dogs mistaking the sound of the bell for food.

Originally Posted by ekim68

The word of Communism comes from community as I recall.... (What happens after politics' is applied changes everyday.. )

Yup.