 | Senior Member with 493 posts. | | | | Knock Kneeded Weakness As conservatives we believe that anybody that changes their mind is weak. No matter what the reason, if it be new science, new information or simply learned behavior, it is wrong and weak to change ones mind.
Here is out favorite, Bill Clinton and his change of mind. We can now bash the hell out of him like we have not been able to do for a decade or so.
Let your hatred spew.... http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/
__________________ 4EverRight, is a conservative believing in the reformation of the conservative movement. | | Distinguished Member with 49,969 posts. | | | | Quote: |
In an interview with CNN's Anderson Cooper, the former president said that while he still believes the issue should be left up to the states, he is no longer personally opposed to same-sex marriage as he once was.
| Well doesn't it depend on what his definition of "is" is???? | | Distinguished Member with 39,525 posts. | | Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Dayton,Oh | | Quote:
Originally Posted by 4EverRight As conservatives we believe that anybody that changes their mind is weak. No matter what the reason, if it be new science, new information or simply learned behavior, it is wrong and weak to change ones mind.
...................... | Never fear....I don't remember seeing you change anyone's mind at this forum | | Distinguished Member with 66,600 posts. | | Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: California Experience: Intermediate | | Quote:
Originally Posted by 4EverRight As conservatives we believe that anybody that changes their mind is weak. No matter what the reason, if it be new science, new information or simply learned behavior, it is wrong and weak to change ones mind.
Here is out favorite, Bill Clinton and his change of mind. We can now bash the hell out of him like we have not been able to do for a decade or so.
Let your hatred spew.... http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/ | He's an intelligent independent man not easily intimidated by the opinion of others. | | Distinguished Member with 2,068 posts. | | Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Down South Experience: Intermediate | | Quote:
Originally Posted by poochee He's an intelligent independent man not easily intimidated by the opinion of others. |  I think he's the most influential man of my generation, personally. | | Junior Member with 3 posts. | | Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Israel Experience: Intermediate | | I can't exactly recall who said it, but it was something like: "In arguments, you can't really convince someone with your opinion, unless he already believed you in the first place" | | Distinguished Member with 39,525 posts. | | Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Dayton,Oh | | Quote:
Originally Posted by MatanP I can't exactly recall who said it, but it was something like: "In arguments, you can't really convince someone with your opinion, unless he already believed you in the first place" | True....but if you'd read many of 4everRight's threads, you would have realized that wasn't my point | | Distinguished Member with 3,991 posts. | | Join Date: Mar 2005 Experience: Getting on everyone's ner | | Quote:
Originally Posted by 4EverRight As conservatives we believe that anybody that changes their mind is weak. No matter what the reason, if it be new science, new information or simply learned behavior, it is wrong and weak to change ones mind. | While it is resisted, it's not considered weak in the the research and development - which would be impossible without some mental agility.
I see the ability for one to change his mine as a sign of courage and strength. Otherwise, I see little more than narcissism and insecurity. | | Distinguished Member with 4,229 posts. | | | | Quote:
Originally Posted by 4EverRight As conservatives we believe that anybody that changes their mind is weak. No matter what the reason, if it be new science, new information or simply learned behavior, it is wrong and weak to change ones mind. | Conservatives don't believe this just liberals like you masquerading as being a conservative. | | Distinguished Member with 4,070 posts. | | Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: City of the Lost Towers Experience: getting there |
26-Sep-2009, 07:46 PM
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Originally Posted by thingamajig While it is resisted, it's not considered weak in the the research and development - which would be impossible without some mental agility. I see the ability for one to change his mine as a sign of courage and strength. Otherwise, I see little more than narcissism and insecurity. | I cant agree more.
Only problem is, in politics, when one changes their mind its usually due to further the politicians own career. | | Community Moderator with 50,226 posts. | | Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Central USA Experience: Need no stinking badges |
28-Sep-2009, 03:24 PM
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Originally Posted by 4EverRight As conservatives we believe that anybody that changes their mind is weak. No matter what the reason, if it be new science, new information or simply learned behavior, it is wrong and weak to change ones mind.
Here is out favorite, Bill Clinton and his change of mind. We can now bash the hell out of him like we have not been able to do for a decade or so.
Let your hatred spew.... http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/ |
Oh .... so if you disagree with Bill Clinton, now that he has changed his mind, then you're spewing hate.
.... I suppose that you would also agree that anyone who disagrees with the President must be a racist.
I agreed with President Clinton in his stand against homosexual marriage. I do not agree with his change of mind.
I agreed with Arlen Specter when he was a Conservative. I no longer agree with him since he changed his mind on core Conservative principles. (which I suspect are now right in line with yours)
Look ... the point is that Clinton is not running for office, so he can say whatever he wants now. Back then he had to concern himself with a little something called public opinion....not so much anymore.
Clinton was a right winger compared to Obama. Heck, fiscally Bill Clinton was to the right of GW Bush!
Bill has a right to change his opinion. That doesn't make him somehow more courageous or more weak.
As usual, your entire intent is to spew your own hatred of not only Conservatives, but Conservative ideals and principles.
You know what would be corageous is for you to finally admit just how skewed to the left that you are (and always have been) and stop pretending that you're some kind of Conservative. You deliberately misrepresent Conservatism in every post.
.... and everybody knows it. | | Distinguished Member with 4,070 posts. | | Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: City of the Lost Towers Experience: getting there |
28-Sep-2009, 06:39 PM
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Originally Posted by LANMaster You know what would be corageous is for you to finally admit just how skewed to the left that you are (and always have been) and stop pretending that you're some kind of Conservative. You deliberately misrepresent Conservatism in every post.
.... and everybody knows it. |  NO WAY! | | Senior Member with 493 posts. | | |
28-Sep-2009, 11:15 PM
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Originally Posted by LANMaster Oh .... so if you disagree with Bill Clinton, now that he has changed his mind, then you're spewing hate.
.... I suppose that you would also agree that anyone who disagrees with the President must be a racist.
I agreed with President Clinton in his stand against homosexual marriage. I do not agree with his change of mind.
I agreed with Arlen Specter when he was a Conservative. I no longer agree with him since he changed his mind on core Conservative principles. (which I suspect are now right in line with yours)
Look ... the point is that Clinton is not running for office, so he can say whatever he wants now. Back then he had to concern himself with a little something called public opinion....not so much anymore.
Clinton was a right winger compared to Obama. Heck, fiscally Bill Clinton was to the right of GW Bush!
Bill has a right to change his opinion. That doesn't make him somehow more courageous or more weak.
As usual, your entire intent is to spew your own hatred of not only Conservatives, but Conservative ideals and principles.
You know what would be corageous is for you to finally admit just how skewed to the left that you are (and always have been) and stop pretending that you're some kind of Conservative. You deliberately misrepresent Conservatism in every post.
.... and everybody knows it. | Here I offered up one of our favorites to bash, Bill Clinton, and you turn on one of your own. | | Distinguished Member with 39,525 posts. | | Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Dayton,Oh |
28-Sep-2009, 11:42 PM
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Originally Posted by 4EverRight As conservatives we believe that anybody that changes their mind is weak. No matter what the reason, if it be new science, new information or simply learned behavior, it is wrong and weak to change ones mind.
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Originally Posted by Bastiat Conservatives don't believe this just liberals like you masquerading as being a conservative. |
I was waiting on a respected conservative to post that observation.
I've long thought that, too. | | Distinguished Member with 24,683 posts. | | Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Proud Brit in VA Experience: B.S. in M.I.S |
28-Sep-2009, 11:45 PM
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Originally Posted by 4EverRight Here I offered up one of our favorites to bash, Bill Clinton, and you turn on one of your own. | Would the bashing be considered a hate crime? | |
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