[Paquadez]

We live in an age where many are losing their homes.

Where many are struggling to find gainful work.

Where far too many are hungry.

Where many cannot afford to access decent health care and suffer and even die because of this reality.

Today, my wife gave me a Heads Up to this news story: about a man I would cheerfully punch right in the middle of his mouth!

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz...y-1m-bash.html

And I am far from a violent man..............

This is where my Right Wing attitudes are swamped by my Left Wing leanings: I suffer from a dichotomy of compassion and sense of fair play.

Perhaps my inate compassion overrides my Right Wing sense of self-determination?

I know not.

When anyone wastes £1,000,000 (Say $1,560,000 ish) on a self-indulgent birthday party and surrounds themselves by exploiters, tax dodgers, and perhaps more than anything, people who are famous for being famous and not one talent between 'em, then my usual tolerant attitude of let sleeping dogs lie suddenly evaporates.

In a nutshell, this man, for me, exemplifies precisely what is wrong with the current genre of Western society.

Too much money for no real social benefits or services to his fellow man: and obvious overt over-consumption: and the abilty to blow a vast sum on nothing other than self-agrindisement.

What a wonderful justification for contraception Mr Cowell really is!

[foremanjr]

I will admit its a stupid use of money, but its his money. I am not toing to tell someone else what too do with something that is theres. Maybe that is the right wing part of me coming out. Ill be damned I have somene else tell me what I can and cannot spend my money on and Ill be damned I tell someone else.

If he wants to throw a £1,000,000 birthday party, I say let him. He atleast put the money into circulation!

[poochee]

IMO, this was an over the top party in these times. However, Cowell contributes a lot to charity.

http://www.looktothestars.org/celebr...1-simon-cowell

[Paquadez]

Originally Posted by foremanjr

I will admit its a stupid use of money, but its his money. I am not toing to tell someone else what too do with something that is theres. Maybe that is the right wing part of me coming out. Ill be damned I have somene else tell me what I can and cannot spend my money on and Ill be damned I tell someone else.

If he wants to throw a £1,000,000 birthday party, I say let him. He atleast put the money into circulation!

You miss the point: what does this man do to deserve the money?

And if this is the contempt in which he holds ownership of those funds then he is not a qualified stakeholder in society.

Simple as that.

After all, he aint a Nobel Laureat for Neurology, for example, huh?

[Paquadez]

Originally Posted by poochee

IMO, this was an over the top party in these times. However, Cowell contributes a lot to charity.

http://www.looktothestars.org/celebr...1-simon-cowell

The old whitewash!

Was this £1,000,000 given to charity?

Patriotism: the last refuge of a scoundrel. (Boswell).

And in this case, perhaps plagarising Boswell:

Charity: the last defence of the unworthy and far too rich!

[LANMaster]

Who are you to decide what one's worth is?

Class envy .... the last refuge of a Communist.

[Paquadez]

Originally Posted by LANMaster

Who are you to decide what one's worth is?

Class envy .... the last refuge of a Communist.

So you really do believe that the programnmes this idiot fronts enjoy any real cultural, aesthetic or social value?

Worrying!

[foremanjr]

Originally Posted by Paquadez

You miss the point: what does this man do to deserve the money?

And if this is the contempt in which he holds ownership of those funds then he is not a qualified stakeholder in society.

Simple as that.

After all, he aint a Nobel Laureat for Neurology, for example, huh?

He is an entertainer. Apparently people like to watch him and because of that companys pay him nicely to appear for them. I personally do not care for him. I think he is rude (American Idol) and personally do not care for that show.

Now...if he were a world famous Neurologist and had millions of dollars and wanted to spend it on an extremely lavish birthday party for himself, would you still be aggravated then?

[poochee]

Originally Posted by LANMaster

Who are you to decide what one's worth is?

Class envy .... the last refuge of a Communist.

Anyone who disagrees with you is a Communist, Socialist, or Markist. Oh, and don't forget Liberal!

Now that I think of it, you resemble a Communist, because you want everyone to have your opinion.

[LANMaster]

Originally Posted by Paquadez

So you really do believe that the programnmes this idiot fronts enjoy any real cultural, aesthetic or social value?

Worrying!

How is that relivant to you how much money someone makes or how he spends it?

[LANMaster]

Originally Posted by poochee

Anyone who disagrees with you is a Communist, Socialist, or Markist. Oh, and don't forget Liberal!

Bout time you figured it out

Actually, by definition, one who tries to legislate the prosperity of an individual IS espusing a Marxist dogma.

1Now that I think of it, you resemble a Communist, because you want everyone to have your opinion.

Nice try, slick.

I just want people to understand that prosperity benefits the masses far more than shared wealth constriction.

[Dzurlord]

Originally Posted by Paquadez

The old whitewash!

Was this £1,000,000 given to charity?

no not given to charity, those dang ppl had to work for the 1,000,000 that was used. How dare he!!!! Isn't he putting it back into the economy? jealous much?

that 1,000,000 just employed how many ppl? maybe he should have just kept it in the bank. oh wait, that would have been ok too. it's his money, he earned it. If you think his shows are crap, make better. but last i checked millions of ppl watch that crap.

[iltos]

Originally Posted by LANMaster

I just want people to understand that prosperity benefits the masses far more than shared wealth constriction.

but that's not really what the point of this thread is, imo.
paq isn't arguing that it's not this guy's 1.5 million, or that he hasn't the right to use it anyway he wants to

it's more along the lines of the priorities that we have conciously or unconciously allowed to become determinants of a man's value to society.....the guy flippin the burger you like is worth $5/hour, the guy making the tv show you like is worth $500/hour

both do little more than provide some immediate gratification.

why the disparity in value, then?....because he's more handsome, more charming?
i'm just asking.....what makes one man worth 100 time more than another?

[Wino]

Originally Posted by iltos

..............................................i'm just asking.....what makes one man worth 100 time more than another?

I'd ask John Holmes, if he were still alive.

[Dzurlord]

Originally Posted by iltos

it's more along the lines of the priorities that we have conciously or unconciously allowed to become determinants of a man's value to society.....the guy flippin the burger you like is worth $5/hour, the guy making the tv show you like is worth $500/hour

?

prolly cause any tom, dick, or harry can flip a burger and not many ppl can create a successful tv show, much less do it several times. Also, maybe there are plenty of good ppl flippin tasty burgers but not many really popular tv shows. kinda puts a premium on the tv shows.