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29-Oct-2009, 09:17 PM
#31 | Quote:
Originally Posted by wacor I stated long ago I hate to read.
I do like pictures though
Anything where you have to read each paragraph twice to get the gist of it goes in the trash.
I blame it on an aversion to the bible at a young age  | I know you read more than you let on. You are smart; and a conservative. 
If I may... that bible has some pretty good stuff in it. | | Distinguished Member with 4,229 posts. | | |
29-Oct-2009, 09:24 PM
#32 | Quote:
Originally Posted by Drabdr I know you read more than you let on. You are smart; and a conservative. 
If I may... that bible has some pretty good stuff in it.  | The first sentence: You got zero correct.
Second sentence: This is a serious discussion, leave the bible out of it. | | Distinguished Member with 2,300 posts. | | Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Arlington, TX Experience: Beginner |
29-Oct-2009, 09:25 PM
#33 | Quote:
Originally Posted by Bastiat Lord you guys write like you are getting paid by the hour.
Let me put it in terms that Wacor can understand (lowest common denominator as it were  ) Management has grown, workers have been marginalized and "process" has become king. There was a time when upper management knew how to do the line workers job. The CEO started in the mail room and worked his way to the top or near the top. You don't see that anymore. Now you have Harvard MBAs/CPAs who understand business "processes" to increase efficiency, reduce costs and increase profit as well as production but, from a mechanical standpoint have a hard time finding their butt with both hands. The Harvard man produces nothing tangible other than efficiency. This whole "processes" has created a new level of management, those that work in a support position in that they are not directly involved in production but their services are necessary to support the business and (yes) comply with governmental regulation.
Therein lies the disconnect between a sense of accomplishment afforded by the "trade" jobs and those of the white and pink collar jobs. |  Good post.
I think you still see some CEO's who worked their way up. But... most managers do seem to come from the trained professional ranks.
But.... do you not believe that people should stick to what they are good at? Engineers to engineering, sales to selling, management to managing??
Organizations should generally stick to what they are good at. And the people within the organization, the same.
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29-Oct-2009, 09:27 PM
#34 | Quote:
Originally Posted by Bastiat The first sentence: You got zero correct.
Second sentence: This is a serious discussion, leave the bible out of it.  |
No, really. Don't hold back. State your real feelings.  | | Distinguished Member with 4,229 posts. | | |
29-Oct-2009, 09:33 PM
#35 | Quote:
Originally Posted by Drabdr | Wacor is from Detroit, he has no feelings, he's just numb. If you lived in Detroit you'd understand. | | Distinguished Member with 2,300 posts. | | Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Arlington, TX Experience: Beginner |
29-Oct-2009, 09:38 PM
#36 | Quote:
Originally Posted by Bastiat Wacor is from Detroit, he has no feelings, he's just numb. If you lived in Detroit you'd understand. | 
Yea.. I've seen that thread, but haven't ventured into it much.
And to your point... don't I remember someone calling Rush listeners mind-numbed robots?  | | Distinguished Member with 24,714 posts. | | Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: You will never know Experience: Depends on the definition |
29-Oct-2009, 09:41 PM
#37 | Quote:
Originally Posted by Bastiat Wacor is from Detroit, he has no feelings, he's just numb. If you lived in Detroit you'd understand. | You have no idea how numb I am right now. And it has nothing to do with booze. I am stone cold sober.
But I am gutted
Can't even come back with a smart quip | | Distinguished Member with 4,229 posts. | | |
29-Oct-2009, 09:44 PM
#38 | Quote:
Originally Posted by wacor You have no idea how numb I am right now. And it has nothing to do with booze. I am stone cold sober.
But I am gutted
Can't even come back with a smart quip | I'm sorry to hear that. Go outside, drop your pants and moon the world. Won't make anything better other than your mood.  But that's a start. | | Distinguished Member with 24,714 posts. | | Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: You will never know Experience: Depends on the definition |
29-Oct-2009, 09:47 PM
#39 | Quote:
Originally Posted by Bastiat I'm sorry to hear that. Go outside, drop your pants and moon the world. Won't make anything better other than your mood.  But that's a start. | Wish it was that simple | | Distinguished Member with 2,300 posts. | | Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Arlington, TX Experience: Beginner |
29-Oct-2009, 09:47 PM
#40 | Quote:
Originally Posted by wacor You have no idea how numb I am right now. And it has nothing to do with booze. I am stone cold sober.
But I am gutted
Can't even come back with a smart quip | Bill, I hope your day goes better tomorrow. Sorry you're bummed.
It's a pretty nice evening, here. Slightly cool for Texas. Getting ready for the weekend activities. Baseball for the boy, V-ball Sunday for me, and of course, ghosts and goblins!! | | Distinguished Member with 24,714 posts. | | Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: You will never know Experience: Depends on the definition |
29-Oct-2009, 09:52 PM
#41 | Quote:
Originally Posted by Drabdr I know you read more than you let on. You are smart; and a conservative. 
If I may... that bible has some pretty good stuff in it.  | I missed this earlier. You obviously don't know me if you think there would be a bible in this house. Quote:
Originally Posted by Drabdr Bill, I hope your day goes better tomorrow. Sorry you're bummed.
It's a pretty nice evening, here. Slightly cool for Texas. Getting ready for the weekend activities. Baseball for the boy, V-ball Sunday for me, and of course, ghosts and goblins!!  | Tom morrow and the future will suck just as bad. | | Distinguished Member with 4,229 posts. | | |
29-Oct-2009, 09:52 PM
#42 | Quote:
Originally Posted by wacor Wish it was that simple  | Never said nor implied that it was that simple. But, sometimes to face problems and/or solve problems you have to get in the right mood to allow for clear headed thinking. Laughter always brightens your mood. Now go pinch your wife in the butt and see if you don't giggle.
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29-Oct-2009, 09:57 PM
#43 | Quote:
Originally Posted by wacor I missed this earlier. You obviously don't know me if you think there would be a bible in this house. | Quote:
Tomorrow and the future will suck just as bad. | I will pass the opportunity to link the two replies together here.  You don't need that right now.
I will say this... You are a great guy with a very good head on your shoulders. You can accomplish anything you wish.
Keep your head up. And I mean this sincerely... anytime you want someone to chat, drop me a note. I'll be more than happy to listen.
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29-Oct-2009, 09:59 PM
#44 | Quote:
Originally Posted by Bastiat Never said nor implied that it was that simple. But, sometimes to face problems and/or solve problems you have to get in the right mood to allow for clear headed thinking. Laughter always brightens your mood. Now go pinch your wife in the butt and see if you don't giggle.  | Yea... go out and look at some ugly people, and realize how decent you have it.  
As far as pinching the wife... be ready for the reverse elbow!!  | | Distinguished Member with 4,229 posts. | | |
29-Oct-2009, 10:03 PM
#45 | Quote:
Originally Posted by Drabdr As far as pinching the wife... be ready for the reverse elbow!!   | Dude! You got to do when they aren't looking and you have walk by real quick. | |
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