 | Senior Member with 1,847 posts. | | Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: usa Experience: Intermediate | | Flu vaccines in canada dr cass ingram is on radio-www.thepowerhour.com saying that the flu vaccine is suspended in Canada the seasonal one and usa media doesnt report this | | Senior Member with 344 posts. | | Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Chicago Experience: always learning | | Chicago just started giving flu shots today and had a huge shortage from lack of supply and demand ,or that's what they say. At least now we are getting it but we were promised it much sooner. Not supprized that the media will make up it's own news or not report at all ,i guess that their least responsible exit plan.
I wouldn't worry getting the shot unless your too old ,too young or in bad shape from drug use or something. I got it from my uncle it was a bad one but i managed it well even tho it gave me 101 degree temp and constant chills in the skin and twitching cramps in my muscle ,burning sensation in my skin because the heat was tricking my body into thinking it was cold. No meds just showers drink lots of water and bags of ice on the head and it passed on. | | Senior Member with 1,847 posts. | | Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: usa Experience: Intermediate | | | | | Distinguished Member with 39,525 posts. | | Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Dayton,Oh | | Quote:
Originally Posted by steppenwolf | And who is Cass Ingram, you might ask? CASHED_LINK | | Community Moderator with 50,226 posts. | | Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Central USA Experience: Need no stinking badges | | Actually, I believe that the seasonal flu shots are now past their point of necessity and/or availability.
My wife tried to get one last week, and Walgreens says nobody is carrying it yet because the danger of the seasonal influenza strain is already long past.
So I don't think this is really anything to be concerned about.
H1N1 is the shot to get now.
Remember something, please. The key reason for any vaccine is not necessarily to protect the person getting the shot, but more to protect the population as a whole from epidemic.
So if you're not going to get the seasonal flu shot early, then you might as well not bother at all, so long as everyone else gets it.
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Originally Posted by steppenwolf dr cass ingram is on radio-www.thepowerhour.com saying that the flu vaccine is suspended in Canada the seasonal one and usa media doesnt report this  | Not true. What the docs are saying is get the H1N1 first and then follow up with the regular shot.
I went to my docs office on Thursday and received my H1N1 shot. They had lots of the regular shot on hand and will have when I go get it in two - four weeks.
Flu season in my part of Canada is considered to be between Nov - April so the regular shot may help those that get it later.
Edit: I don't know how you guys come up with that crap . What amazes me even more is how some of you suck it up like it's the last drop of water on the earth. | | Senior Member with 1,847 posts. | | Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: usa Experience: Intermediate | | i wont get the flu shot
i never get the flu not since maybe when i was 17
40 years ago | | Senior Member with 344 posts. | | Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Chicago Experience: always learning | | Don't they give you some type of flu shot when your born? | | Senior Member with 1,899 posts. | | Join Date: Mar 2005 Experience: Intermediate | | Quote:
Originally Posted by guy2 Don't they give you some type of flu shot when your born? | Nope, they only come and take your blood for DNA and testing. And it is not the doctor, it is the government!
Most public schools require about 6 vacinations before you can come to school, but I don't think that the flu vacine is one of them at least in my state.
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06-Nov-2009, 06:16 PM
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Originally Posted by TooBad Nope, they only come and take your blood for DNA and testing. And it is not the doctor, it is the government!  | Please tell me you don't really believe that nonsense. | | Distinguished Member with 4,229 posts. | | |
06-Nov-2009, 06:45 PM
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Originally Posted by guy2 Don't they give you some type of flu shot when your born? | I don't believe so as the infants system couldn't handle the virus. | | Community Moderator with 16,982 posts. | | Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Cowtown, against my will Experience: PHD -poop handling degree |
07-Nov-2009, 04:17 AM
#12 | My doctor, who has been my personal physician for 21 years, said yes, my little boy should have the H1N1 shot, but not now, as a little kid shouldn't be waiting in hours-long line ups. He said to wait a few weeks when he will have the shots in his own office.
In Canada newborns don't get any shots until 3 months of age and the shots they get are for Rubella and something else like polio or something similar - I can't recall offhand.
Seasonal flu claims thousands every year, far more than the Swine flu will. The reason they are making a big deal about it is because it targets specific people. The high risk ones like the young, pregnant women, the old and those with underlying health issues, mostly respiratory. A two month-old baby died here recently. Liam is 8 months old. That scares the bejeezuz out of me.
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Originally Posted by pyritechips Seasonal flu claims thousands every year, far more than the Swine flu will. The reason they are making a big deal about it is because it targets specific people. The high risk ones like the young, pregnant women, the old and those with underlying health issues, mostly respiratory. | According to Canada's chief medical officer he stated on CBC the other night that they expect 300 - 400 will die due to H1N1 in Canada this year. It's the media that's making it a big deal and as usual they aren't devoting any time to the real facts. They are doing what they do best and that's taking the few scary parts of a story and exploding the hell out of it. | | Distinguished Member with 4,229 posts. | | |
07-Nov-2009, 10:39 AM
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Originally Posted by pyritechips
In Canada newborns don't get any shots until 3 months of age and the shots they get are for Rubella and something else like polio or something similar - I can't recall offhand. | DPT and mumps. | | Distinguished Member with 6,214 posts. | | Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Spain Experience: comfortably numb |
08-Nov-2009, 07:45 AM
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Originally Posted by pyritechips .......
Seasonal flu claims thousands every year, far more than the Swine flu will. The reason they are making a big deal about it is because it targets specific people. The high risk ones like the young, pregnant women, the old and those with underlying health issues, mostly respiratory. A two month-old baby died here recently. Liam is 8 months old. That scares the bejeezuz out of me. | Actually, Jim, it doesn't. Like any other strain of flu it targets everybody. And you'll find that, once affected, the survival rate and non-survival rate are about on par with seasonal flu for people of a "pre-condition" and those lacking it.
Seasonal flu takes more lives because it's wider spread (at the moment) than H1N1 is. The difference with H1N1 being that it is currently the same strain the world over. That's what "pandemic" means (as opposed to epidemic).
If it should become wider spread than seasonal strains (per country) then by default the death rate will also be higher (per country) than for seasonal.
H1N1 not only is pandemic but it also makes for "pandemonium".
What is conveniently suppressed by the "interested" pro vaccination parties is that in case of the virus mutating to something more dangerous it'll also nicely mutate itself out of the virus range that the current vaccinations cover.
And then we'll all be back to the initial question of how well our bodies cope with flu. But "big pharma" wins any which way.
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