[ckphilli]

Originally Posted by ckphilli

So just out of curiosity... read this: http://blog.al.com/press-register-sp...ight_song.html

Now, I'm very proud that change has been instigated...but...umm...what about the mascot?

Seems a little strange to me...

Originally Posted by iltos

hmmm....first thing that popped in my mind was:
"what? is ole miss an all white football team?.....they've got no black players?"
then
"do they stop playing their hearts out when fans start chanting?"

who's making an issue out of this?

Originally Posted by ckphilli

The school is making an issue out of it...and well, it should be...IMO. My issue is that they stop at the chant "the south will rise again". This phrase and "rebel" in Ole' Miss. context are reminders of an ugly past and quite offensive to some, including me.

We're not talking outlawing and limiting freedom of speech...but neither has any business at a public university.

Now, if they change the mascot and keep "rebel" that may be a good compromise.

Originally Posted by iltos

at the risk of turning a perfectly sane thread into a candidate for CD
i'm not gettin it.....yes, it was an ugly past....but if we keep bringing it up and trying to find some balance that both includes it and excludes it, all it means is that we'll never get past it.

if there's some black kids at that school that take issue with the chant, then i'll listen...'til then, my money is on old white administrators worried about "image" and how it effects recruitment and endowments

Originally Posted by ckphilli

Fair enough my friend, last words from me on this...

It is about the image to me. History has a place and it's in the history books; or the net these days. Constant reminders are just unnecessary and I think that's what the administration is trying to stop. And it isn't always just the black players that have a problem...k, sorry, I'll stop.

Originally Posted by iltos

maybe they should "rebrand" themselves
call themselves "new miss"

Originally Posted by wacor

Next thing you know they will remove any reference to the native indians. Oh wait. Eastern Michigan did that a few years ago. Sheesh this PC world is a getting out of hand. If the Washington Redskins keep going down the tubes on par with the Lions it won't take long and there will be a groundswell to rename them.

sorry to hijack but I am with Iltos on this one.

Originally Posted by ckphilli

It's not a "PC" issue Bill and you know that.

[iltos]

closing this, ckphilli.....the posts from random have been moved here in CD.