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06-Nov-2009, 07:10 PM #181
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Phi Beta Kappa?
Trial lawyer?
Yale Law?

Can't trust this son-of-b..., obviously a Muslim infiltrator looking to steal the vital fluids of Americas' youth.


How are you doing my favorite Cuban communist?
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06-Nov-2009, 07:11 PM #182
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Incorrect
As stated the constitution would not be stepped on...you can appoint who ever you want.

Credible link they were picked because they were muslim?
they were picked...they were muslim....they dont exactly make up 90 percent of the population....how many live on your block.

lets face it most of us are casual Christians etc...we dont live by the book very well....if we were taking the book seriously...how would we be? very confused and lost,for it is a confusing book that no one agrees fully upon.
Now take their book...when it is taken seriously...you have armies of killer fruitcakes...not one guy making a bomb in the basement.

Fire them for being muslim?...nope..that would be wrong
Never appoint them....that would have been the correct thing to do.
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As stated the constitution would not be stepped on...you can appoint who ever you want.
But your position violates that concept because you discriminate based upon religion.

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Credible link they were picked because they were muslim?
Yes....do you have one?
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The Jews are unreliable. They define themselves thru their religion more than thru their nationality. When it comes to the crunch they'll be Jews first. They are all part of the international conspiracy of world Jewry which is designed towards their enrichment for purpose of world dominance. The moderates amongst them will be drawn into the fold of the radicals when the time comes. They want to destroy our nation(s) because they have no allegiance to it(them) anyway. They have no loyalty since they are foreigners anyway. Even those born in our country are of foreign descent. They are responsible for the current crisis and it's their fault that all our money is in China. In fact the Chinese are Jews as well.

A final solution is required.

Did I mention that they abduct our children and sacrifice them during their disgusting secret rituals?
Better throw some smilies in there, or you might just make a few unintended friends.
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06-Nov-2009, 07:11 PM #184
Technically Brett is correct. Because these are political appointments discrimination because of religion would not violate the Constitution. The President would look really stupid and obviously there would be justified outrage but not unconstitutional.
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Don't put Jews in charge of the pork packing plant.

Don't Seventh Day Adventists in charge of the blood bank.

(Sorry, I just couldn't let this go by. The silliness expressed in this thread (not the particular post I quoted) has me giggling to no end.)

OMG That was just too funny.
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06-Nov-2009, 07:14 PM #186
MAN!!! Fast moving thread to be sure.
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06-Nov-2009, 07:15 PM #187
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You've posted too much on the subject to convince anyone differently......you support torture.
This thread isnt about me and my stance on boarding a terrorist for intel that chose to be a tough guy and not talk.....
I remember you support torture if it involves your family....Perhaps if we were all just one big happy family we could have the same view
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Technically Brett is correct. Because these are political appointments discrimination because of religion would not violate the Constitution. The President would look really stupid and obviously there would be justified outrage but not unconstitutional.
Thankyou Bastiat
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06-Nov-2009, 07:21 PM #189
Poochee...come bury some of these posts I cant keep up
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06-Nov-2009, 07:26 PM #190
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Phi Beta Kappa?
Trial lawyer?
Yale Law?

Can't trust this son-of-b..., obviously a Muslim infiltrator looking to steal the vital fluids of Americas' youth.


How are you doing my favorite Cuban communist?
Normally , I would not trust them as far as I could throw them ---but their not white so........ I give them a pass ! .
I am doing ok , just tiring of work , getting old . I just wish I could give more time to ladies !
Hope you are doing well whiteboy , "rob them while you can " ! >f
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06-Nov-2009, 07:34 PM #191
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This thread isnt about me and my stance on boarding a terrorist for intel that chose to be a tough guy and not talk.....
I remember you support torture if it involves your family....Perhaps if we were all just one big happy family we could have the same view

I don't support legalizing torture and do admit that there are circumstances involving survival that could very well bring out some nasty traits in me.
The point being you support the concept as a means of legal interrogation.
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06-Nov-2009, 07:34 PM #192
Sooo... how many other countries would allow a white, middle aged, Church of Christ boy from Texas hold one of their Cabinet positions?

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Sooo... how many other countries would allow a white, middle aged, Church of Christ boy from Texas hold one of their Cabinet positions?

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06-Nov-2009, 07:38 PM #194
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.....I have learned a couple of lessons since 9/11;

First I learned that the Islamic religion commands for the killing of innocents (including Muslims) to achieve the greater goals of Islam.

The next thing that I learned was that I was all wrong about the first thing I learned.
Now follow that up with the all-out premise that one NEVER stops learning and you can't really go much wrong anymore
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Islam is going through their "age of crusades" IMO. Just as the Christian religion did, and the Jewish religion before it. Which makes perfect sense based on the timeline of each of those 3 basic religions.

Think about it. Judaeism was taken into captivity around what? 8th century BC? by Nebuchadnezzar, then the Persians after that, right? Some Jewish writings have been dated back about 12-1500 years before that. Surely these Jews were an aggressive bunch back then, I would imagine.

Christianity started around 32 AD, most Biblical Scholard would agree. The Christian crusades started in the 9th century and continued on through the 12th or 13th century, right.

Well Islam started between 600 and 800 AD. They seem to be right on schedule, if you ask me.
It's an interesting thought and I've often said something similar, albeit working from different premises and citing different developments. But the timeline feels to me to have a lot to do with it.

With Jewry also take into account that chances of dominance (of surrounding people) became pretty much zero with the final destruction of the temple (not that they were particular great to start with) and adaption had to be made to fit into any particular place of diaspora.

Christianity had the renaissance. It had the reformation. What's more the deck was shuffled such that industrial, economical, societal developments (I wouldn't call all of it progress) coincided geographically with Christianity.
And the religion had to run to keep up with all of these (heck, meanwhile the Vatican of all institutions acknowledges Darwin - somewhat).

Islam had its peak in similar achievements relatively briefly after having come out of the desert. Damascus, Baghdad, Cordoba etc. were cradles of learning and general progressiveness. Religious tolerance was enormously pronounced. But it's been on the decline ever since because it hasn't grown from out of its foundations while Western society has developed.

Most all Muslims face the quandary of having to govern themselves (or be governed) by a rule set that applied to the Saudi desert 1300 years ago and that simply won't jell with today's world. Most Muslims also live very much in today's world and are pleased to do so. Reconciling that with their faith without consulting a priest (a luxury we, no you, can afford to do if need be) can't be easy 'cos he'll have to consult the book.

I see little point in making it even more difficult for them by putting them under collective suspicion. Best way to turn a person of faith (any) into a fanatic is to suppress him/her into martyrdom.

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Hopefully it won't take them 300 years to realize the folly of what I believe to be their Crusadism mentality.
The Marquis de Sade (premier cru) raising his ugly head, eh?

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06-Nov-2009, 07:40 PM #195
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Thankyou Bastiat
Don't thank him....he is technically correct....appointments you speak of are made at the discretion of the President. The problem with your argument is that you impose limitations on choices and haven't presented a case of why it's legal to discriminate from a religious pov.
Essentially, you are limiting choices while also claiming the freedom to choose.

Your argument is a non sequitur.
 

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