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Originally Posted by LANMaster .....I have learned a couple of lessons since 9/11;
First I learned that the Islamic religion commands for the killing of innocents (including Muslims) to achieve the greater goals of Islam.
The next thing that I learned was that I was all wrong about the first thing I learned.  |
Now follow that up with the all-out premise that one NEVER
stops learning and you can't really go much wrong anymore
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Islam is going through their "age of crusades" IMO. Just as the Christian religion did, and the Jewish religion before it. Which makes perfect sense based on the timeline of each of those 3 basic religions.
Think about it. Judaeism was taken into captivity around what? 8th century BC? by Nebuchadnezzar, then the Persians after that, right? Some Jewish writings have been dated back about 12-1500 years before that. Surely these Jews were an aggressive bunch back then, I would imagine.
Christianity started around 32 AD, most Biblical Scholard would agree. The Christian crusades started in the 9th century and continued on through the 12th or 13th century, right.
Well Islam started between 600 and 800 AD. They seem to be right on schedule, if you ask me.
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It's an interesting thought and I've often said something similar, albeit working from different premises and citing different developments. But the timeline feels to me to have a lot to do with it.
With Jewry also take into account that chances of dominance (of surrounding people) became pretty much zero with the final destruction of the temple (not that they were particular great to start with) and adaption had to be made to fit into any particular place of diaspora.
Christianity had the renaissance. It had the reformation. What's more the deck was shuffled such that industrial, economical, societal developments (I wouldn't call all of it progress) coincided geographically with Christianity.
And the religion had to run to keep up with all of these (heck, meanwhile the Vatican of all institutions acknowledges Darwin - somewhat).
Islam had its peak in similar achievements relatively briefly after having come out of the desert. Damascus, Baghdad, Cordoba etc. were cradles of learning and general progressiveness. Religious tolerance was enormously pronounced. But it's been on the decline ever since because it hasn't grown from out of its foundations while Western society has developed.
Most all Muslims face the quandary of having to govern themselves (or be governed) by a rule set that applied to the Saudi desert 1300 years ago and that simply won't jell with today's world. Most Muslims also live very much in today's world and are pleased to do so. Reconciling that with their faith without consulting a priest (a luxury we, no you

, can afford to do if need be) can't be easy 'cos he'll have to consult the book.
I see little point in making it even more difficult for them by putting them under collective suspicion. Best way to turn a person of faith (any) into a fanatic is to suppress him/her into martyrdom.
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Hopefully it won't take them 300 years to realize the folly of what I believe to be their Crusadism mentality.
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The Marquis de Sade (premier cru) raising his ugly head, eh?
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