[Fidelista]

Originally Posted by TRS-80 vet

Sooo... what?

What's wrong with Muslim Security of USA?

You got a problem with Muslims?

So do I.

Get them out of the Army, starting in Texas, then get them out of the country.

But in the meantime, put them in charge of everything important. And start praising Ackbarlah [sp?]

If you had any sense , you would be ashamed of yourself . .
Are you braver than this young man , more decent , more "American" ? .
Would you tell his family that he should not have served his country? , that they should be kicked out of their country ? . I am ashamed for you .
Disgusting is all I can say . >f
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http://www.arlingtoncemetery.net/krkhan.htm
A Fallen American Soldier
Colin Powell ended his endorsement of Obama by referring to the death of a Muslim soldier, Kareem Rashad Sultan Khan of Manahawkin, N.J., who was killed in Iraq on Aug. 6, 2007, and whose remains were buried in Arlington National Cemetery.
He and three other soldiers, including a corporal from Washington Heights, were killed in Baquba after a bomb detonated while they were checking abandoned houses for explosives. They served in the Stryker Brigade combat team of the Army's 2nd Infantry Division, based in Ft. Lewis, Washington.
Mr. Khan graduated from Southern Regional High School in Manahawkin in 2005, and enlisted in the Army a few months later, spurred by his memories of the 9/11 terror attacks. "His Muslim faith did not make him not want to go. It never stopped him," his father, Feroze Khan, told the Gannett News Service in a story printed shortly after his death. "He looked at it that he's American and he has a job to do."

http://www.vetvoice.com/showDiary.do?diaryId=2054

"Is there something wrong with being Muslim in America? No, that's not America," .

"He was 14 years old at the time of 9/11, and he waited until he could go serve his country, and he gave his life," "Now, we have got to stop polarizing ourselves in this way."

Gen. Colin Powell

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Muslim soldiers reconcile faith with U.S. military action
A decade-long civil conflict has prevented him from returning home since coming to the United States six years ago. He considers the Sept. 11 attacks a personal affront to his newfound freedom. "Muslims in the United States military are there to serve," Kaloko says. "They're called upon to fight against enemies of this great nation. They are ready to do that."
http://findarticles.com/p/articles/m...1/ai_n8972916/
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Muslim Veterans Group Says No Reports of Harassment of Islamic Soldiers

A Muslim veteran affairs organization says it has not received reports of harassment from Islamic soldiers, contrary to claims by a relative of the man authorities say is responsible for the worst mass killing on a U.S. military base.

"We were all shocked at the tragedy yesterday at Fort Hood and the act of cowardice by the attacker," Shora said. "We were all attacked yesterday. Let's remember that this was an attack on all Americans and it’s a time for all Americans to come together in unity and in faith."

Alejandro Beutel, government liaison for the Muslim Public Affairs Council, said the Muslim-American community is "appalled" by the incident.

"We unequivocally denounce this heinous act against our brave men and women serving in the military to protect our country," Beutel said. "We pray for [the victims'] well-being and for the safety of the entire nation."

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,572588,00.html

[Bastiat]

Originally Posted by aka Brett

Now back to muslims and the appointments....there is no reason to deliberately appoint muslims to these positions other to have muslims in these positions deliberately....and I say..why take the chance...this is national security........It is odd and I am sure others agree...that is the point

Hmm....interesting point. If you accept as fact that Muslims make up a very small minority in the US you could argue that the appointment of these two is a political statement and that they were appointed solely because they are Muslim. Don't know if that is true or not but a possible scenario.

Don't read that to mean they aren't qualified to perform the job but, then again, their qualifications in DC are that unusual. There are dozens upon dozens of young men and women in DC who have the same or similar qualifications. Which also goes to support the point that their appointment was more of a political statement then anything else.

So if it is improper to deny appointment of someone to a job because of their religious beliefs would it be just as improper to appoint someone because of their religious belief?

[iltos]

Originally Posted by Fidelista

If you had any sense , you would be ashamed of yourself . .
Are you braver than this young man , more decent , more "American" ? .
Would you tell his family that he should not have served his country? , that they should be kicked out of their country ? . I am ashamed for you .
Disgusting is all I can say . >f
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http://www.arlingtoncemetery.net/krkhan.htm
A Fallen American Soldier
Colin Powell ended his endorsement of Obama by referring to the death of a Muslim soldier, Kareem Rashad Sultan Khan of Manahawkin, N.J., who was killed in Iraq on Aug. 6, 2007, and whose remains were buried in Arlington National Cemetery.
He and three other soldiers, including a corporal from Washington Heights, were killed in Baquba after a bomb detonated while they were checking abandoned houses for explosives. They served in the Stryker Brigade combat team of the Army's 2nd Infantry Division, based in Ft. Lewis, Washington.
Mr. Khan graduated from Southern Regional High School in Manahawkin in 2005, and enlisted in the Army a few months later, spurred by his memories of the 9/11 terror attacks. "His Muslim faith did not make him not want to go. It never stopped him," his father, Feroze Khan, told the Gannett News Service in a story printed shortly after his death. "He looked at it that he's American and he has a job to do."

http://www.vetvoice.com/showDiary.do?diaryId=2054

"Is there something wrong with being Muslim in America? No, that's not America," .

"He was 14 years old at the time of 9/11, and he waited until he could go serve his country, and he gave his life," "Now, we have got to stop polarizing ourselves in this way."

Gen. Colin Powell

-----------------------------------------------------------------------------------

Muslim soldiers reconcile faith with U.S. military action
A decade-long civil conflict has prevented him from returning home since coming to the United States six years ago. He considers the Sept. 11 attacks a personal affront to his newfound freedom. "Muslims in the United States military are there to serve," Kaloko says. "They're called upon to fight against enemies of this great nation. They are ready to do that."
http://findarticles.com/p/articles/m...1/ai_n8972916/
----------------------------------------------------------------------------------

Muslim Veterans Group Says No Reports of Harassment of Islamic Soldiers

A Muslim veteran affairs organization says it has not received reports of harassment from Islamic soldiers, contrary to claims by a relative of the man authorities say is responsible for the worst mass killing on a U.S. military base.

"We were all shocked at the tragedy yesterday at Fort Hood and the act of cowardice by the attacker," Shora said. "We were all attacked yesterday. Let's remember that this was an attack on all Americans and it’s a time for all Americans to come together in unity and in faith."

Alejandro Beutel, government liaison for the Muslim Public Affairs Council, said the Muslim-American community is "appalled" by the incident.

"We unequivocally denounce this heinous act against our brave men and women serving in the military to protect our country," Beutel said. "We pray for [the victims'] well-being and for the safety of the entire nation."

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,572588,00.html

superb response, >f

[aka Brett]

Originally Posted by Bastiat

Hmm....interesting point. If you accept as fact that Muslims make up a very small minority in the US you could argue that the appointment of these two is a political statement and that they were appointed solely because they are Muslim. Don't know if that is true or not but a possible scenario.

Don't read that to mean they aren't qualified to perform the job but, then again, their qualifications in DC are that unusual. There are dozens upon dozens of young men and women in DC who have the same or similar qualifications. Which also goes to support the point that their appointment was more of a political statement then anything else.

So if it is improper to deny appointment of someone to a job because of their religious beliefs would it be just as improper to appoint someone because of their religious belief?

You know what my vote is

[aka Brett]

WOW AN 8 YR OLD ARTICLE....A VERY GOOD READ I MIGHT MENTION

SOURCE TO ARTICLE

[4EverRight]

Originally Posted by TRS-80 vet

Sooo... what?

What's wrong with Muslim Security of USA?

You got a problem with Muslims?

So do I.

Get them out of the Army, starting in Texas, then get them out of the country.

But in the meantime, put them in charge of everything important. And start praising Ackbarlah [sp?]

This is an example of conservative gone wrong.

See how a bit of information is taken and a whole religion is tainted?

Real conservative values would indicate that our country must be protected, and we need to seek out individuals that want to do us harm, but we are not going to discriminate against a whole population. Conservatives blame the problem, we do not blame for blames sake.

[aka Brett]

Its only slightly related to the topic at hand but does show a much bigger picture to those that are not paying attention as they should
SOURCE

[ekim68]

Originally Posted by Bastiat

Speak for yourself, it's still dull.

And, yet you keep coming back...

[paisanol69]

Originally Posted by Bastiat

Hmm....interesting point. If you accept as fact that Muslims make up a very small minority in the US you could argue that the appointment of these two is a political statement and that they were appointed solely because they are Muslim. Don't know if that is true or not but a possible scenario.

Don't read that to mean they aren't qualified to perform the job but, then again, their qualifications in DC are that unusual. There are dozens upon dozens of young men and women in DC who have the same or similar qualifications. Which also goes to support the point that their appointment was more of a political statement then anything else.

So if it is improper to deny appointment of someone to a job because of their religious beliefs would it be just as improper to appoint someone because of their religious belief?

.....hitting the nail on the head.

jeeze, take a 18 hour break from this site, and have to read nearly 200 replies to this thread, when I get back, it really has been/is slow here at CD, for this thread to garner all of the "debate"..

[iltos]

Originally Posted by aka Brett

WOW AN 8 YR OLD ARTICLE....A VERY GOOD READ I MIGHT MENTION

SOURCE TO ARTICLE

Originally Posted by aka Brett

Its only slightly related to the topic at hand but does show a much bigger picture to those that are not paying attention as they should
SOURCE

brett.....please don't cut and paste entire articles.
that's general policy at TSG to avoid copyright issues.

you can link to articles as you've done, or c/p snippets to support your own words.

[ekim68]

Originally Posted by paisanol69

.....hitting the nail on the head.

jeeze, take a 18 hour break from this site, and have to read nearly 200 replies to this thread, when I get back, it really has been/is slow here at CD, for this thread to garner all of the "debate"..

(Yep, we don't have a life... )

[buffoon]

Originally Posted by aka Brett

Its only slightly related to the topic at hand but does show a much bigger picture to those that are not paying attention as they should
SOURCE

Jeez Brett that is really sad. You couldn't find a better way of self self-disqualification than to quote this "source"

Daniel Pipes of all people. How pathetic can you get?

[buffoon]

Originally Posted by TRS-80 vet

Sooo... what?

What's wrong with Muslim Security of USA?

You got a problem with Muslims?

So do I.

Get them out of the Army, starting in Texas, then get them out of the country.

But in the meantime, put them in charge of everything important. And start praising Ackbarlah [sp?]

You got a problem with Muslims?

So do I.

You got problems, period

[pyritechips]

Originally Posted by Bastiat

Hmm....interesting point. If you accept as fact that Muslims make up a very small minority in the US you could argue that the appointment of these two is a political statement and that they were appointed solely because they are Muslim. Don't know if that is true or not but a possible scenario.

Don't read that to mean they aren't qualified to perform the job but, then again, their qualifications in DC are that unusual. There are dozens upon dozens of young men and women in DC who have the same or similar qualifications. Which also goes to support the point that their appointment was more of a political statement then anything else.

So if it is improper to deny appointment of someone to a job because of their religious beliefs would it be just as improper to appoint someone because of their religious belief?

Would it be fair to say that the appointments were political tokenism? Was this an attempt to appease Muslim-Americans who oppose American presence in the Middle East? Forgive me if I am repeating others; I confess to not having read this entire thread.

[Stoner]

Originally Posted by Bastiat

Hmm....interesting point. If you accept as fact that Muslims make up a very small minority in the US you could argue that the appointment of these two is a political statement and that they were appointed solely because they are Muslim. Don't know if that is true or not but a possible scenario.

Don't read that to mean they aren't qualified to perform the job but, then again, their qualifications in DC are that unusual. There are dozens upon dozens of young men and women in DC who have the same or similar qualifications. Which also goes to support the point that their appointment was more of a political statement then anything else.

So if it is improper to deny appointment of someone to a job because of their religious beliefs would it be just as improper to appoint someone because of their religious belief?

So if it is improper to deny appointment of someone to a job because of their religious beliefs would it be just as improper to appoint someone because of their religious belief?

So far no one has responded with a credible link showing it was a religious appointment......that I requested numerous posts ago.


But that's not Brett's argument.
Brett doesn't want the option to choose a Muslim open to the President.
So I've been asking.......how can this be accomplished legally?
How can an appointment be legally blocked on the grounds of religion?